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Secrets cover-ups and strange phenomena

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UFOs and ideas that challenge reality

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itself all these Mysteries all this time

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are we ever going to get to the bottom

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of these my name is George Knapp I dig

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into news stories that others can't or

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won't I'm Jeremy Corbell and for some

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reason people tell me things they

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probably shouldn't

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and this is weapons

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this is weaponized welcome back yeah it

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is it is weaponized again oh my gosh

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back by popular but it's backed by

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unpopular demands yeah I thought maybe

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we might take a a walk a stroll down

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memory lane and we're talking about

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memories a millennia ago or decades ago

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something fairly recent that you were

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and I were involved in that I think is

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probably about 90 percent your fault 10

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Joe Rogan's oh [\h__\h] storm 51 okay

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really you want to do this right now

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storming Area 51 where conspiracy

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theorists think the government has

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a Facebook post and a vowed fake

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designed to get likes announced a plan

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to raid the Air Force Base in Nevada

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known as Area 51 which has been at the

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center of UFO and alien conspiracy

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theories for decades more than one

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million people have signed up it's been

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enough to Spook the Air Force

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Air Force officials don't want people to

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trespass on the base they are worried

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some might be killed quote any attempt

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to illegally access military

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installations or military training areas

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is dangerous there has been renewed

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interest in UFO sighting since it was

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revealed earlier this year the military

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has spent 22 million dollars to research

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UFOs it's not clear the 1.1 million

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going to storm Area 51 are real and not

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Russian Bots first of all George Knapp

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storm Area 51

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is your fault and it's babazar's fault

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so I'm gonna just step back and okay for

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our audience check this out everybody

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should remember there was a big cultural

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event a movement based upon the idea of

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storming Area 51 which is a horrible

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and uh how that came into being in my

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understanding was that in 1989 you did

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an interview with Bob Lazar and told the

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world with Bob that there were UFOs at

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area 51. so that is really why it got on

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the radar from from my perspective and

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probably popular perspective that the

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storm thing happened but there's a very

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look man people knew that at Area 51

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there was this potential this idea that

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babazar might be telling the truth and

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so what happens is and I'm so tired

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today so we're gonna I'm just gonna take

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this easy okay it's been a long

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point of my film was to allow people to

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see that Bob Lazar was a person that

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makes coffee house dogs and a wife and

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is a human being and they can't

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dehumanize somebody and dismiss what

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so I did the movie which was not easy to

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background I need to find out if if I

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the truth but at this point it was just

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let's see who Bob really is so I came to

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you and I have this picture and it's in

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what I think I should how I should lay

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this out and thank you because you were

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like check it out man you're jumping

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ahead you got to go back to the

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started as you said in 1989 we did

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unleash this series about UFOs the best

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evidence and the Heart of that series

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was about Bob Lazar his allegations his

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outrageous stories outrageous claims

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about what was hidden out there in the

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Nevada desert and then they exploded

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journalists many of whom are still at

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really hated it the public ate it up

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public couldn't get enough of it they

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other reporters felt I was somehow

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bringing the profession into disrepute

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credibility for taking this stuff

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seriously I tried to approach it as just

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another news story and it was an

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explosion I mean you know there had been

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years since but very few I mean kls TV a

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the base Bob stoddahl and Ned day had

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projects out there but the public had no

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idea around the world they had no idea

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that such a place existed once that

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although I as I said journalists gave me

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photograph and record on video cameras

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extraterrestrial Highway the governor

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birthday in 1996 I thought wow it's a

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really nice birthday present we flew in

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in a helicopter they had the the cast

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and crew the director and producer of

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the big ceremony and they created the

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which of course it was a big jolt to

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tourism out there the little alien was

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what's in the sky that Curiosity never

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story waned after a while Bob didn't

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twisted his arm and pulled him out of

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his house and made him go on camera he

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would give me because of our frenzy he'd

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give me a an interview but he wanted

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nothing to do with it and it sort of

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nosedived until you came along so I'm

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recalculating my math on whose fault

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storm 51 is I'll give 20 percent to Bob

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great at math but we're going to

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recalculate this further so you are

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phenomenon that that thing would not

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government coming out saying we're

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map and then it went away okay it was

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gone okay so I'm just okay I'm

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personally curious what did you think

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not a not a short clip

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feature film format even though I'm not

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like a known filmmaker

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tried to put it behind him he is not a

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guy who lives off of this he has a

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business and a life and a family and

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would like it to go away so the idea

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that he would commit to opening up

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completely to you I I found that uh I'll

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simple it's not a simple thing you I I

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make up their minds I believe Bob I

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him here's why I don't and they know so

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little about what really has gone on the

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undercurrents of the story what it was

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it it's outrageous it's it's off the

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um and it's a lot less crazy now that

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engineering programs and Legacy UFO

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programs but back then it was right out

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of the blue and and I could see people

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not believing it but

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that that is hard to convey from back in

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those days things that were going on

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behind the scenes the terror that was

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real you know the the people that were

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following us around them messing with us

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burglarizing his car and playing mind

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games with him and scaring the hell out

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of him I mean it was real stuff it was

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really going on so you know look um my

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aim and and there's so many funny things

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but like my aim was like finally after

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to see kind of like who he is but you

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this that it was like when when finally

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wasn't making a film to go through Point

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by Point like is he telling truth just

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see who he is we'll talk about all that

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later

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um I remember your kind of skepticism

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you kind of kept telling me like

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the other shoe is going to drop

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something's going to go wrong he's going

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to get raided by you know you told me

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some crazy like something bad is gonna

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happen this is not gonna happen for you

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and I was like just let's pretend it's

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gonna happen right let's just keep

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moving so I want to kind of thank you

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first of all because

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why I put you as a producer on there I

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just want to be clear to everybody it's

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not because like uh you know you're like

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had your hand in this movie but people

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say crazy [\h__\h] it was just because I

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couldn't do this without you I wouldn't

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make the mistakes of other people of

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course we're working together all the

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time I would never do it without but I

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couldn't do it without you so we sat

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down and every time I exported a clip

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and and sometimes I was like oh no this

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is messed up something's wrong here and

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you're like hold a second

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look a little deeper we did an interview

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back here read it listen to it so you

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ended up giving me

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like just so much access to things that

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so Bob gave me Total Access whatever you

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want but he didn't know Lane Keck

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anymore Lane Keck is the guy who did the

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um hypnotic regression hypnotic

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regression which so everybody knows it's

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just so that you relax and can clear

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your mind and try to recall finite

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details so you were like well I know

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lame you know uh you know he works here

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down at this place still I think so I

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called Lane and Lane would never let me

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in except for the fact I said I know

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George [\h__\h] nap so then he was

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like okay and boy did he let me in what

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you don't see in the film I've never

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released this Lane went through with me

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his original handwritten in real-time

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notes of of what Bob was saying and and

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he thought Bob was saying desk I'm in a

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room there's a desk but like Bob was

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saying disc and Lane had no idea why

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this guy wanted to remember a time of

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his life so sitting back with Lane

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watching and filming with him and seeing

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his handwritten notes and I photographed

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every single note on my iPhone that he

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had from that live session he showed me

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this drawing and the thing is Bob drew

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it and we didn't know what it was and

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then he he flipped it it was a saucer

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but the thing is Bob's just kind of like

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drawing it so Lane goes oh my gosh you

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did hypnosis to try to recall details

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from your employment and from the

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physics right of what you learn is that

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correct yeah that's correct with Lane

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Keck okay and did you recall anything

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yeah I did I mean specifics things you

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might might have missed I basically

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wanted to try everything I could to

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prove what I was saying so this is just

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another tool you're familiar with the

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hypnosis can work yeah to recall yeah

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and I I had had it done to me before so

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I had proven that yeah this really does

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do something let's try and remember some

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fine details

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or you wanted to recall some Physics

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that you learned there yeah I wanted I

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wanted to recall as much as I possibly

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could I mean so much went through my

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mind just imagine all the things you

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were seeing and everyone is completely

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fascinating and something you haven't

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seen before it's just data overload so I

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was hoping that

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hypnosis would get me relaxed enough

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where maybe everything was paxo tight

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together maybe I could just start

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thumbing through things and just pick up

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an even a couple little bar tidbits

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could paint a bigger picture and I could

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you know possibly explain things better

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or you know possibly locate some of

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these other guys or anything any bit of

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information so yeah and it was pretty

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handy

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so you did recall some things yeah

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technically yeah technical things and

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more and more hypnosis is accepted

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however there's still a lot of

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misconceptions about it like what

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oh they think that you go into a trance

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and

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your life changes

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and that's not the case at all there's

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no mind control

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and just just think relax relaxation

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now just think about your head and relax

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I don't know that's bad that's that's

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just really fascinating but I think it

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is a shielding material

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s

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like the lid on the reactor

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the actual curve basketball oh what

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would it be

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I just want I like to stick to the

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technical stuff because that it fills in

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my picture a lot better and allows me to

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duplicate more things

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get a better handle on stuff what it all

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makes sense yeah but I'd rather stick

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with that stuff than the spiritual stuff

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well I know that that's a big deal but

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all right to the tips of your toes just

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relax

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completely now what I want you to do

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is to get as comfortable as you possibly

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can

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and just relax completely

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now double your relaxation and the

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number 100 will be there

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one zero zero double your relaxation

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and the number 99 will come right on it

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I'll just let your mind sweep through

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your whole being

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relaxing every once and every nerve in

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your body

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just relax completely

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please

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Bob

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From This Moment On from this moment on

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you will recall and remember the

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material that you seek and no one or

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nothing past presence or future will

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stand in your way

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Bob

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you will remember

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because you desire

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at one point

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he was in hypnosis

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I think it was drawing a reactor he was

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trying to recall what was in the books

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he saw it in the book and then

430
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I told him well you'll come up and open

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your eyes you'll be able to draw and uh

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he did but it didn't mean anything to it

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but

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it was a drawing that

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he drew this way oh no way but it was

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this way and so afterwards

437
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he looked at it he you know came back

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over and sat down here for a while and

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oh that's because all he had to do is

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turn it so that's the super conscious

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and literal the subconscious takes

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things literally like it's like the mind

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is absorbing all this stuff and then he

444
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discovers what his mind had absorbed

445
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he's remembering yeah I was writing so

446
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fast I can't imagine what you were

447
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thinking too because you're discovering

448
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with them that kind of shock

449
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what's the truth

450
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hypnosis is the best possible tool of

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getting to the truth if a person makes

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things up normally

453
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they can lie under hypnosis just as

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easily as out of hypnosis but if they're

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really trying to get to and retrieve

456
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information then it's the best tool that

457
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he came in to find out what he didn't

458
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know we were able to go back overcome

459
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so here's my point is that making this

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movie was really the start if we're

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going to lead to who's at fault for

462
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storm area 51. you know I would say that

463
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we've identified that it's your fault

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we've identified that it's Bob's fault

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and then we've identified that the movie

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sparked interest

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and and honestly it was like to try to

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get and I'd love to tell you about

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Mickey Rourke and why he decided to

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narrate the film but I don't think we're

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going to go into that today but like

472
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let's get to storm

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I think it was like finally because I

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knew as a fan I wanted to know what is

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this guy actually like what is he

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actually like well that's the kind of

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thing that I could not do in the series

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that I produced about Bob one in 1989

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and then one in 1990 is you know I'm

480
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doing the basics here's where he says he

481
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went to school here's where the records

482
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news going to Los Alamos was he really

483
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there talk to fellow employees see if we

484
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can get some actual paper trail that

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proves he was there and then the telling

486
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the basic story of him but it wasn't

487
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really about Bob as a human being and I

488
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thought your idea of exposing him to the

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world about what he's really like and

490
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who he is was a brilliant idea because

491
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people who know Bob people who know him

492
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the best yes who are closest to him are

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the ones that believe him the most

494
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that's right it there's the people who

495
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are around him all the time his wife his

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mom Jean Huff Jim taliani

497
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um Joe a guy will talk about at some

498
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other point people have been around him

499
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a long time but the ones that stand by

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him and know that he's not making this

501
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stuff up so the idea was if you could

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get that if you could show that side of

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Bob Lazar that would be pretty awesome

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and it it turned out to be awesome it

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was awesome you know I did not expect

506
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that it would be you know picked up by

507
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Netflix I remember first movie was but I

508
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felt like just like a lucky dude it was

509
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like crazy I'm not really you know

510
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established with what I'm doing yet

511
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that's a whole nother story but I think

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you know the interesting thing here is

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that from from my perspective is that

514
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you were so like you thought there's no

515
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way it's gonna go wrong

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Bob does not want to retell at you know

517
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he's done he has taken so much [\h__\h] the

518
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hook to Bob was that look dude

519
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everybody's lying about you sexually

520
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lying so easy they say they they put

521
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your name they say babazar conspiracy

522
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theorists they don't say

523
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Bob Lazar owner of United nuclear which

524
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is his company right which he has

525
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passion for it's it's like Willy Wonka

526
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of science when you're in there which

527
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the feds were in there too it turns out

528
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we should talk about that so because the

529
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fed's raiding Bob Lazar I think created

530
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a pinpoint that helped the storm Area 51

531
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cultural movement that was going on

532
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occur so we should get into the raid but

533
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the main thing here is that

534
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you didn't think you thought something

535
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bad would happen that it just because he

536
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you know but the hook to him was

537
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everybody's lying about you that's I

538
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hear the lies I know their lies other

539
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people don't so either you tell your

540
00:24:00,710 --> 00:23:58,679
story again

541
00:24:03,409 --> 00:24:00,720
word for word

542
00:24:05,270 --> 00:24:03,419
your account what happened or in history

543
00:24:08,149 --> 00:24:05,280
it's going down is what other people say

544
00:24:10,789 --> 00:24:08,159
and I that took like a year but you

545
00:24:12,470 --> 00:24:10,799
could feel it boiling you're right I

546
00:24:16,010 --> 00:24:12,480
need to tell people again just word for

547
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word what happened to me well I mean my

548
00:24:20,270 --> 00:24:17,940
predictions of Doom

549
00:24:22,549 --> 00:24:20,280
um were not entirely unfounded I'd gone

550
00:24:24,830 --> 00:24:22,559
to see Bob he had moved to

551
00:24:26,710 --> 00:24:24,840
New Mexico after he left Las Vegas and

552
00:24:29,990 --> 00:24:26,720
he had a home there it was a nice place

553
00:24:32,330 --> 00:24:30,000
and uh it was an anniversary maybe 20

554
00:24:33,649 --> 00:24:32,340
years after the the first series or

555
00:24:35,990 --> 00:24:33,659
something like that and I went to go see

556
00:24:38,149 --> 00:24:36,000
him and he'd welcomed Us in and he

557
00:24:41,390 --> 00:24:38,159
showed me around this place he had built

558
00:24:43,430 --> 00:24:41,400
a this is Bob Bazaar fake scientist had

559
00:24:46,370 --> 00:24:43,440
built a 30-foot long particle

560
00:24:49,190 --> 00:24:46,380
accelerator that went through a house in

561
00:24:51,649 --> 00:24:49,200
the back of his home that was producing

562
00:24:54,230 --> 00:24:51,659
hydrogen fuel okay so hold on so people

563
00:24:55,970 --> 00:24:54,240
all the time scientists say that that's

564
00:24:58,789 --> 00:24:55,980
[\h__\h] you can't build a particle

565
00:25:00,590 --> 00:24:58,799
accelerator well hold the [\h__\h] up like

566
00:25:02,930 --> 00:25:00,600
that's the thing I should have him come

567
00:25:05,630 --> 00:25:02,940
and talk just about that like what he

568
00:25:08,390 --> 00:25:05,640
was doing was he was trying to create uh

569
00:25:10,310 --> 00:25:08,400
something very specific for a fuel cell

570
00:25:12,289 --> 00:25:10,320
that he was using that's why he moved to

571
00:25:13,789 --> 00:25:12,299
Michigan because he got like it was

572
00:25:15,649 --> 00:25:13,799
before Michigan this is in New Mexico

573
00:25:17,930 --> 00:25:15,659
right but he ended up moving to Michigan

574
00:25:19,789 --> 00:25:17,940
because what he was creating he thought

575
00:25:20,930 --> 00:25:19,799
the hydrogen car was going to be cool it

576
00:25:22,970 --> 00:25:20,940
was going to be big and he actually had

577
00:25:24,769 --> 00:25:22,980
operating hydrogen cars right there

578
00:25:26,750 --> 00:25:24,779
before it was like popular and all this

579
00:25:29,450 --> 00:25:26,760
[\h__\h] before hydrogen is not the future

580
00:25:33,350 --> 00:25:29,460
and it's electric but like people don't

581
00:25:35,810 --> 00:25:33,360
get that like it was there you saw it we

582
00:25:37,970 --> 00:25:35,820
you saw it function I've talked to other

583
00:25:40,970 --> 00:25:37,980
scientists that help him work on that it

584
00:25:43,669 --> 00:25:40,980
was to help create this specific element

585
00:25:46,190 --> 00:25:43,679
to I don't want to get my words weird

586
00:25:49,070 --> 00:25:46,200
you know not Element 115 it was it was

587
00:25:50,630 --> 00:25:49,080
it was a very simple process so we call

588
00:25:52,789 --> 00:25:50,640
it a part of accelerate because it was a

589
00:25:54,830 --> 00:25:52,799
particle accelerator but what it was to

590
00:25:57,590 --> 00:25:54,840
perform a task but it's this really cool

591
00:25:58,909 --> 00:25:57,600
with 30 feet tall yeah it was it was it

592
00:26:00,649 --> 00:25:58,919
went right through a building and he

593
00:26:02,750 --> 00:26:00,659
would use that to create this hydrogen

594
00:26:05,330 --> 00:26:02,760
fuel system he had already installed

595
00:26:07,909 --> 00:26:05,340
this system into two cars he ran a

596
00:26:08,930 --> 00:26:07,919
Corvette and it was two years at the

597
00:26:10,549 --> 00:26:08,940
point where I saw him it had been

598
00:26:12,049 --> 00:26:10,559
running for two years with no gasoline

599
00:26:14,269 --> 00:26:12,059
it was running on hydrogen there's a

600
00:26:16,610 --> 00:26:14,279
video out there that one of his good

601
00:26:19,130 --> 00:26:16,620
friends who I've been in contact with a

602
00:26:20,750 --> 00:26:19,140
little bit uh you know kind of made this

603
00:26:22,130 --> 00:26:20,760
cool little YouTube video where he's

604
00:26:23,690 --> 00:26:22,140
showing them the cars they're just a

605
00:26:25,730 --> 00:26:23,700
friend of his just came by it's on

606
00:26:27,289 --> 00:26:25,740
YouTube and he's showing them you know

607
00:26:29,450 --> 00:26:27,299
these hydrogen cars and people were like

608
00:26:32,029 --> 00:26:29,460
calling [\h__\h] whatever I've seen that

609
00:26:34,970 --> 00:26:32,039
[\h__\h] work it's crazy I mean this is like

610
00:26:37,909 --> 00:26:34,980
so anyway here's the point

611
00:26:42,649 --> 00:26:37,919
we get to the point where

612
00:26:45,590 --> 00:26:42,659
the film comes out and the world sees it

613
00:26:48,409 --> 00:26:45,600
on a scale that I did not anticipate and

614
00:26:50,450 --> 00:26:48,419
that's truth that's truth right there I

615
00:26:53,930 --> 00:26:50,460
didn't know I spent

616
00:26:55,730 --> 00:26:53,940
[\h__\h] nine years trying to to do it

617
00:26:58,310 --> 00:26:55,740
you know all this and then I dumped all

618
00:27:00,049 --> 00:26:58,320
my own money into this I had no idea

619
00:27:01,789 --> 00:27:00,059
that Netflix was gonna pick it up they

620
00:27:03,049 --> 00:27:01,799
picked up my first film but you can't

621
00:27:04,909 --> 00:27:03,059
get guaranteed

622
00:27:06,649 --> 00:27:04,919
so I was like I need to do like one

623
00:27:08,390 --> 00:27:06,659
interview so I got a few friends that

624
00:27:11,390 --> 00:27:08,400
could amplify this [\h__\h] but I didn't

625
00:27:14,450 --> 00:27:11,400
hear back from them right so one

626
00:27:17,330 --> 00:27:14,460
interview was all I Bob promised me he'd

627
00:27:19,850 --> 00:27:17,340
do one interview like you know on camera

628
00:27:21,590 --> 00:27:19,860
so we got asked by Larry King and that

629
00:27:23,990 --> 00:27:21,600
was such a cool interview because of

630
00:27:26,630 --> 00:27:24,000
Larry King's history with Area 51 and

631
00:27:29,810 --> 00:27:26,640
covering your stories you did this big

632
00:27:32,029 --> 00:27:29,820
thing out there right so there I am I

633
00:27:34,430 --> 00:27:32,039
going to Bob Larry King and Bob does not

634
00:27:37,669 --> 00:27:34,440
want to do this but he but he's doing it

635
00:27:40,010 --> 00:27:37,679
for me like his wife Joy was like you

636
00:27:41,750 --> 00:27:40,020
know you could tell that he didn't want

637
00:27:43,430 --> 00:27:41,760
to do it but he's doing it for me and

638
00:27:44,810 --> 00:27:43,440
I'm so grateful because I wanted to get

639
00:27:48,350 --> 00:27:44,820
the movie out I wanted people to see it

640
00:27:51,649 --> 00:27:48,360
I made the [\h__\h] movie why does the

641
00:27:53,590 --> 00:27:51,659
government hide this well what so we all

642
00:27:56,149 --> 00:27:53,600
believe most people believe in

643
00:27:57,529 --> 00:27:56,159
extraterrestrials right most people so

644
00:27:59,870 --> 00:27:57,539
what are you what are they afraid of

645
00:28:02,630 --> 00:27:59,880
we're living in a different world now

646
00:28:05,149 --> 00:28:02,640
since December of 2017 with Commander

647
00:28:07,549 --> 00:28:05,159
David fraver the Tic Tac UFO case which

648
00:28:09,350 --> 00:28:07,559
I broke before the New York Times I

649
00:28:11,990 --> 00:28:09,360
reported on that twice

650
00:28:13,850 --> 00:28:12,000
that case opened the door so we now know

651
00:28:15,890 --> 00:28:13,860
the government did not stop studying

652
00:28:18,590 --> 00:28:15,900
UFOs in 1969 there's a program called

653
00:28:20,029 --> 00:28:18,600
atip that program is now acknowledged so

654
00:28:21,649 --> 00:28:20,039
what what are what are they afraid of I

655
00:28:23,210 --> 00:28:21,659
think they're afraid of weaponization I

656
00:28:24,529 --> 00:28:23,220
think that's the issue here and also

657
00:28:26,390 --> 00:28:24,539
you're right we're not we're not alone

658
00:28:28,010 --> 00:28:26,400
in the universe well I always said it's

659
00:28:30,529 --> 00:28:28,020
why don't they just release information

660
00:28:32,269 --> 00:28:30,539
that these events occurred and they can

661
00:28:34,190 --> 00:28:32,279
keep the technology secret that I've

662
00:28:36,590 --> 00:28:34,200
never understood so I'm with you on that

663
00:28:38,870 --> 00:28:36,600
why are they afraid of you what are you

664
00:28:41,930 --> 00:28:38,880
going to tell us just what I did the

665
00:28:44,450 --> 00:28:41,940
existence of the project all right why

666
00:28:46,490 --> 00:28:44,460
why are they so afraid I I don't you'd

667
00:28:48,890 --> 00:28:46,500
have to ask them that

668
00:28:52,850 --> 00:28:48,900
so we do this interview with Larry King

669
00:28:55,130 --> 00:28:52,860
and then I get a call after Bob had done

670
00:28:58,909 --> 00:28:55,140
the one thing I begged them to do just

671
00:29:01,570 --> 00:28:58,919
one on camera interview for the film

672
00:29:06,590 --> 00:29:01,580
and I get a call from Joe Joe Rogan okay

673
00:29:08,930 --> 00:29:06,600
and man I I have so much gratitude and

674
00:29:11,690 --> 00:29:08,940
love for the fact that because he pushed

675
00:29:13,610 --> 00:29:11,700
me because he goes hey man can you get

676
00:29:15,890 --> 00:29:13,620
Bob on with me can we do it can we do it

677
00:29:19,789 --> 00:29:15,900
all together can we get Bob and I'm like

678
00:29:22,490 --> 00:29:19,799
no like you know he already did the one

679
00:29:24,769 --> 00:29:22,500
interview like he doesn't talk he

680
00:29:26,450 --> 00:29:24,779
doesn't want to do it man and I wish I

681
00:29:27,710 --> 00:29:26,460
could I can't do it I just remember him

682
00:29:30,529 --> 00:29:27,720
being like

683
00:29:32,690 --> 00:29:30,539
will you just ask him

684
00:29:35,510 --> 00:29:32,700
and I was like yeah

685
00:29:37,930 --> 00:29:35,520
yeah I can totally ask him

686
00:29:41,630 --> 00:29:37,940
but I knew Bob wouldn't really

687
00:29:43,490 --> 00:29:41,640
understand that somebody that we don't

688
00:29:45,049 --> 00:29:43,500
know you know if Joe's just gonna attack

689
00:29:46,909 --> 00:29:45,059
him or whatever like everybody else you

690
00:29:48,590 --> 00:29:46,919
know why would Bob want to do it so I

691
00:29:50,389 --> 00:29:48,600
called Bob before we went to Michigan

692
00:29:52,730 --> 00:29:50,399
together right

693
00:29:55,130 --> 00:29:52,740
to seal the deal you know to try to get

694
00:29:57,110 --> 00:29:55,140
them I was like Bob there's this guy

695
00:29:59,690 --> 00:29:57,120
named Joe Rogan he's [\h__\h] awesome

696
00:30:00,710 --> 00:29:59,700
dude and uh I don't know what he wants

697
00:30:02,630 --> 00:30:00,720
to talk to you about but he wants to

698
00:30:05,269 --> 00:30:02,640
talk about your experiences didn't Bob

699
00:30:08,389 --> 00:30:05,279
ask you uh Joe Rogan is he a disc jockey

700
00:30:10,250 --> 00:30:08,399
he did he did oh my God Bob does not he

701
00:30:13,250 --> 00:30:10,260
did he does not know anything about like

702
00:30:14,690 --> 00:30:13,260
the outside kind of public publicity you

703
00:30:16,970 --> 00:30:14,700
know just kind of like the bigger World

704
00:30:19,250 --> 00:30:16,980
outside of his you know science that he

705
00:30:21,889 --> 00:30:19,260
loves he did ask me that it was okay so

706
00:30:24,769 --> 00:30:21,899
I had to translate no

707
00:30:27,769 --> 00:30:24,779
um well Joseph friend and he's a

708
00:30:30,289 --> 00:30:27,779
straightforward person and he's got a

709
00:30:33,710 --> 00:30:30,299
very direct way of kind of getting into

710
00:30:35,450 --> 00:30:33,720
things and I was like so disc jockey I

711
00:30:38,870 --> 00:30:35,460
don't even know what that means but no

712
00:30:40,970 --> 00:30:38,880
he he does a a podcast and he is you

713
00:30:42,889 --> 00:30:40,980
know he's a comedian you know so we'll

714
00:30:44,930 --> 00:30:42,899
have some laughs but you know it's a

715
00:30:48,110 --> 00:30:44,940
it's a big platform and I just think

716
00:30:50,690 --> 00:30:48,120
like if we were to do anything like if

717
00:30:55,010 --> 00:30:50,700
you really want to let people hear hear

718
00:30:57,049 --> 00:30:55,020
what happened to you your experiences

719
00:30:58,610 --> 00:30:57,059
um no matter you know if he like

720
00:31:01,370 --> 00:30:58,620
everybody else has trashed you up to

721
00:31:04,730 --> 00:31:01,380
here you know even if he does that

722
00:31:07,190 --> 00:31:04,740
um you'll at least be heard you know

723
00:31:08,990 --> 00:31:07,200
so he didn't really get it and he's like

724
00:31:10,970 --> 00:31:09,000
no

725
00:31:13,130 --> 00:31:10,980
so then we're like okay

726
00:31:14,750 --> 00:31:13,140
so you and I decide we're going to go to

727
00:31:16,970 --> 00:31:14,760
Michigan well anyway by the way because

728
00:31:19,730 --> 00:31:16,980
we wanted to just see Bob there's a

729
00:31:22,010 --> 00:31:19,740
movie that's out about him you know like

730
00:31:23,870 --> 00:31:22,020
let's just talk with him and hang out we

731
00:31:26,029 --> 00:31:23,880
wanted to have a beer and just [\h__\h]

732
00:31:28,130 --> 00:31:26,039
hang out with Bob because it was just so

733
00:31:30,110 --> 00:31:28,140
much running and gunning right which by

734
00:31:32,450 --> 00:31:30,120
the way my movie like I made like it was

735
00:31:35,690 --> 00:31:32,460
like I would have canceled it up to that

736
00:31:37,490 --> 00:31:35,700
second if it wasn't accurate and true in

737
00:31:39,110 --> 00:31:37,500
the eyes of the person that I am

738
00:31:41,269 --> 00:31:39,120
portraying that's the promise you made

739
00:31:44,330 --> 00:31:41,279
to Lazar that is the promise I made to

740
00:31:48,649 --> 00:31:44,340
Bob which is that to me I did make it to

741
00:31:51,649 --> 00:31:48,659
you too yeah I did and I got chills man

742
00:31:53,029 --> 00:31:51,659
um so here's the deal I I would have

743
00:31:55,610 --> 00:31:53,039
killed the phone because when you let

744
00:31:58,430 --> 00:31:55,620
somebody into your private life and make

745
00:32:01,909 --> 00:31:58,440
it public on a Netflix documentary that

746
00:32:04,190 --> 00:32:01,919
ended up being wildly successful

747
00:32:06,409 --> 00:32:04,200
you open yourself up personally and and

748
00:32:08,649 --> 00:32:06,419
everybody's past that like Bob's past

749
00:32:13,070 --> 00:32:08,659
that you're past that I don't want

750
00:32:15,169 --> 00:32:13,080
problems in my life we have good lives

751
00:32:17,630 --> 00:32:15,179
but I was I would have nuked the movie

752
00:32:19,190 --> 00:32:17,640
so you and I went out to have a beer and

753
00:32:21,769 --> 00:32:19,200
just kind of hang out with the fam and

754
00:32:24,409 --> 00:32:21,779
the dogs and all this but you're like

755
00:32:26,090 --> 00:32:24,419
Bob you really won't do this Joe Rogan

756
00:32:27,889 --> 00:32:26,100
thing you're like I think it might it

757
00:32:29,750 --> 00:32:27,899
doesn't matter every if everybody hates

758
00:32:31,490 --> 00:32:29,760
you whatever it doesn't matter if

759
00:32:34,010 --> 00:32:31,500
they're gonna come at you just say your

760
00:32:36,830 --> 00:32:34,020
piece and he's so hesitant and we go

761
00:32:39,830 --> 00:32:36,840
into one of his rooms and I remember

762
00:32:42,169 --> 00:32:39,840
calling Joe and being like okay here's

763
00:32:44,750 --> 00:32:42,179
Bob you convince him because I've done

764
00:32:46,730 --> 00:32:44,760
my best I took a photo the call you did

765
00:32:48,289 --> 00:32:46,740
three of us are on the phone we're

766
00:32:50,990 --> 00:32:48,299
talking with Rogan and in the back

767
00:32:53,630 --> 00:32:51,000
there's a poster I think John Lear is in

768
00:32:55,669 --> 00:32:53,640
the poster it's you John Lear and Bob

769
00:32:57,409 --> 00:32:55,679
Lazar that's an artist I don't remember

770
00:32:58,789 --> 00:32:57,419
I'll try to find that and put that out

771
00:33:00,649 --> 00:32:58,799
but it's an artist that made this really

772
00:33:03,590 --> 00:33:00,659
cool 80s style poster of the three of

773
00:33:06,590 --> 00:33:03,600
you but it was a cool photo a phone call

774
00:33:08,510 --> 00:33:06,600
Joe is you know he's a good dude and he

775
00:33:10,669 --> 00:33:08,520
uh he's very persuasive and he knows how

776
00:33:12,350 --> 00:33:10,679
to how to sort of gently twist

777
00:33:14,750 --> 00:33:12,360
somebody's arm without making him

778
00:33:17,149 --> 00:33:14,760
intimidated and it was it was a very

779
00:33:20,870 --> 00:33:17,159
persuasive call that ended up with a yes

780
00:33:23,870 --> 00:33:20,880
nobody could have got Bob Lazar

781
00:33:27,049 --> 00:33:23,880
on another broadcast like a visual film

782
00:33:29,450 --> 00:33:27,059
broadcast nobody on planet Earth but Joe

783
00:33:31,610 --> 00:33:29,460
because just though the way that he said

784
00:33:34,070 --> 00:33:31,620
look I just want to know I just want to

785
00:33:36,470 --> 00:33:34,080
know I'm not this is not about [\h__\h]

786
00:33:38,029 --> 00:33:36,480
trying to annihilate you I just want to

787
00:33:39,889 --> 00:33:38,039
hear what you have to say and that's

788
00:33:41,570 --> 00:33:39,899
what I really respected about it and I

789
00:33:44,149 --> 00:33:41,580
think that's what because he doesn't

790
00:33:45,649 --> 00:33:44,159
know who he is like Bob is so in his

791
00:33:46,970 --> 00:33:45,659
field this business and Science and

792
00:33:48,769 --> 00:33:46,980
United nuclear

793
00:33:51,110 --> 00:33:48,779
but I remember that phone call and I

794
00:33:52,789 --> 00:33:51,120
remember afterwards he's like I'll I'll

795
00:33:53,870 --> 00:33:52,799
think about it and he said I'll think

796
00:33:55,250 --> 00:33:53,880
about it and you and I know when Bob

797
00:33:56,210 --> 00:33:55,260
says that it's like he will think about

798
00:33:57,350 --> 00:33:56,220
it

799
00:33:58,669 --> 00:33:57,360
so I don't remember when he said he

800
00:34:00,649 --> 00:33:58,679
asked but I remember calling Joe and

801
00:34:02,029 --> 00:34:00,659
being like dude let's [\h__\h] do it you

802
00:34:03,169 --> 00:34:02,039
know it's not gonna do it it's so cool

803
00:34:05,450 --> 00:34:03,179
man

804
00:34:07,549 --> 00:34:05,460
um Joe's seen the the film by that point

805
00:34:09,530 --> 00:34:07,559
by the time he made that call

806
00:34:11,690 --> 00:34:09,540
I can't remember

807
00:34:14,389 --> 00:34:11,700
Joe had

808
00:34:15,649 --> 00:34:14,399
seen the film I Believe by that time of

809
00:34:18,050 --> 00:34:15,659
the call because they had been out on

810
00:34:20,210 --> 00:34:18,060
iTunes so he saw it he saw it so you'll

811
00:34:22,550 --> 00:34:20,220
recall you know there have been some

812
00:34:25,849 --> 00:34:22,560
interviews and programs that he has done

813
00:34:28,010 --> 00:34:25,859
where he's pretty harsh on UFOs yeah he

814
00:34:30,230 --> 00:34:28,020
went through a big period and rightfully

815
00:34:32,329 --> 00:34:30,240
so you and I have been through that so

816
00:34:34,129 --> 00:34:32,339
there was there was a show Joe Rogan uh

817
00:34:36,409 --> 00:34:34,139
questions everything and and I remember

818
00:34:38,690 --> 00:34:36,419
that time because because I we we met up

819
00:34:41,210 --> 00:34:38,700
one time at this um motion capture

820
00:34:42,889 --> 00:34:41,220
Studio when he was filming that show the

821
00:34:45,230 --> 00:34:42,899
thing was was that a lot of the people

822
00:34:46,669 --> 00:34:45,240
that you know were coming at they're

823
00:34:50,030 --> 00:34:46,679
crazy you know that a lot of the awful

824
00:34:51,169 --> 00:34:50,040
people are just [\h__\h] crazy so if I

825
00:34:53,750 --> 00:34:51,179
was him I would have had the same

826
00:34:57,109 --> 00:34:53,760
experience I would have been like uh

827
00:34:58,910 --> 00:34:57,119
this is [\h__\h] you know everything so

828
00:35:00,770 --> 00:34:58,920
there was definitely a phase I think and

829
00:35:03,770 --> 00:35:00,780
Dave Foley who's all of our common

830
00:35:05,510 --> 00:35:03,780
friend he talks about that like that Joe

831
00:35:07,010 --> 00:35:05,520
is interested in UFOs I mean Joe will

832
00:35:09,050 --> 00:35:07,020
speak for himself on this room he does

833
00:35:11,329 --> 00:35:09,060
all the time but like but Dave Foley

834
00:35:13,370 --> 00:35:11,339
said then he was like not into it

835
00:35:15,530 --> 00:35:13,380
because the show kind of just this is

836
00:35:17,270 --> 00:35:15,540
[\h__\h] crazy and you and I can relate

837
00:35:18,650 --> 00:35:17,280
to that it's sometimes it's so crazy

838
00:35:21,230 --> 00:35:18,660
you're like I want nothing to do with

839
00:35:23,450 --> 00:35:21,240
this everybody's insane I remember Dave

840
00:35:25,670 --> 00:35:23,460
Foley Sam he called up Joe and being

841
00:35:29,210 --> 00:35:25,680
like you'd be very happy to know I am

842
00:35:30,770 --> 00:35:29,220
into UFOs again and I think Joe was

843
00:35:32,210 --> 00:35:30,780
something like that [\h__\h] like it was

844
00:35:33,410 --> 00:35:32,220
like I don't know it was something like

845
00:35:35,089 --> 00:35:33,420
that

846
00:35:37,609 --> 00:35:35,099
but I think he watched the documentary

847
00:35:40,130 --> 00:35:37,619
and he he did say to me a couple times I

848
00:35:41,329 --> 00:35:40,140
think on air too it's your fault Jeremy

849
00:35:43,730 --> 00:35:41,339
I think he started an episode like that

850
00:35:45,829 --> 00:35:43,740
I go whoa what what what what what

851
00:35:47,990 --> 00:35:45,839
specifically is my fault you know and

852
00:35:49,730 --> 00:35:48,000
he's like uh get me back into UFOs I go

853
00:35:51,170 --> 00:35:49,740
no wasn't that Dave Foley the guy back

854
00:35:52,790 --> 00:35:51,180
into UFOs because no it was your movie

855
00:35:55,190 --> 00:35:52,800
so I was like okay

856
00:35:57,109 --> 00:35:55,200
so I think he had watched it and I think

857
00:35:58,550 --> 00:35:57,119
that he thought

858
00:36:00,950 --> 00:35:58,560
I would love for him to speak for

859
00:36:02,870 --> 00:36:00,960
himself but I think that he thought hey

860
00:36:04,370 --> 00:36:02,880
let's just hear what Bob has to say

861
00:36:05,510 --> 00:36:04,380
right because everybody knows Bob's

862
00:36:07,430 --> 00:36:05,520
story from when you report it everybody

863
00:36:09,230 --> 00:36:07,440
knows it so like me like like everybody

864
00:36:12,410 --> 00:36:09,240
else on planet Earth I'd like to hear it

865
00:36:14,150 --> 00:36:12,420
so it was just a rough road and so Bob

866
00:36:17,990 --> 00:36:14,160
decided he would do

867
00:36:20,690 --> 00:36:18,000
The Joe Rogan Experience so we you know

868
00:36:22,430 --> 00:36:20,700
we when it ended up going there right

869
00:36:23,990 --> 00:36:22,440
so I was like I just basically said Bob

870
00:36:26,030 --> 00:36:24,000
get on a plane I mean you know like

871
00:36:30,530 --> 00:36:26,040
let's go I'll make it easy for you you

872
00:36:32,569 --> 00:36:30,540
know and then uh what happens is oh this

873
00:36:34,550 --> 00:36:32,579
is fun so so he gets

874
00:36:36,290 --> 00:36:34,560
I didn't want to get in all this so he

875
00:36:39,170 --> 00:36:36,300
gets a I have a migraine right now just

876
00:36:41,150 --> 00:36:39,180
for so everybody knows it's horrible so

877
00:36:42,890 --> 00:36:41,160
Bob like gets a migraine right before

878
00:36:44,690 --> 00:36:42,900
the thing because he's probably well

879
00:36:47,089 --> 00:36:44,700
first of all I fed him McDonald's and

880
00:36:48,950 --> 00:36:47,099
joy his wife was so mad at me that like

881
00:36:50,210 --> 00:36:48,960
I fed him like horrible food right

882
00:36:53,329 --> 00:36:50,220
before I think because it causes

883
00:36:56,810 --> 00:36:53,339
migraines whatever so everybody was like

884
00:36:59,150 --> 00:36:56,820
oh he got a migraine on that hold on did

885
00:37:01,190 --> 00:36:59,160
he not answer every question like

886
00:37:02,990 --> 00:37:01,200
migraine or not he had a [\h__\h]

887
00:37:05,630 --> 00:37:03,000
migraine did he answer every question

888
00:37:07,190 --> 00:37:05,640
yeah he did so

889
00:37:08,450 --> 00:37:07,200
people that don't want to believe him

890
00:37:10,730 --> 00:37:08,460
will never believe him and you and I

891
00:37:13,790 --> 00:37:10,740
were so over it like believe him not

892
00:37:16,370 --> 00:37:13,800
believe him I don't care I know Bob is

893
00:37:18,710 --> 00:37:16,380
telling the truth I don't I don't think

894
00:37:21,050 --> 00:37:18,720
yeah I passed that bar a long time ago

895
00:37:22,790 --> 00:37:21,060
you know um I don't care what people

896
00:37:25,310 --> 00:37:22,800
think anymore

897
00:37:27,410 --> 00:37:25,320
decide don't decide I don't care easy

898
00:37:29,750 --> 00:37:27,420
way to say it right there I'm with you

899
00:37:31,910 --> 00:37:29,760
don't care but look man I didn't know

900
00:37:34,490 --> 00:37:31,920
like you know

901
00:37:36,109 --> 00:37:34,500
how this thing was gonna go but what

902
00:37:38,390 --> 00:37:36,119
happened was

903
00:37:40,250 --> 00:37:38,400
it [\h__\h] blew up

904
00:37:44,030 --> 00:37:40,260
I mean it like

905
00:37:46,250 --> 00:37:44,040
the powerful Joe Rogan I mean he looked

906
00:37:49,609 --> 00:37:46,260
at me after the thing and he was all

907
00:37:52,730 --> 00:37:49,619
don't read social media and I'm like why

908
00:37:54,170 --> 00:37:52,740
and I'm thinking to myself what what did

909
00:37:55,310 --> 00:37:54,180
I say you know what I mean but it was

910
00:37:57,230 --> 00:37:55,320
just like I think he was just as a

911
00:38:00,109 --> 00:37:57,240
friend being like other people's

912
00:38:01,310 --> 00:38:00,119
opinions don't matter

913
00:38:03,349 --> 00:38:01,320
they should be focused on the

914
00:38:05,270 --> 00:38:03,359
information he knew it was going to be a

915
00:38:09,589 --> 00:38:05,280
big show though right yeah yeah I I

916
00:38:14,030 --> 00:38:09,599
think that he knew how rare it was

917
00:38:17,329 --> 00:38:14,040
for uh I think he saw how hard I fought

918
00:38:19,849 --> 00:38:17,339
to get Bob on there I know he did I know

919
00:38:22,069 --> 00:38:19,859
he saw that and so I think he knew that

920
00:38:24,050 --> 00:38:22,079
like it was a special moment where we

921
00:38:25,630 --> 00:38:24,060
could like look and see if it's [\h__\h]

922
00:38:27,890 --> 00:38:25,640
or not if we could look at it together

923
00:38:29,270 --> 00:38:27,900
uh if he could look at it that's what

924
00:38:30,950 --> 00:38:29,280
everybody wants you have to meet

925
00:38:33,890 --> 00:38:30,960
somebody and something you said here

926
00:38:36,290 --> 00:38:33,900
come in with me here I want to something

927
00:38:40,609 --> 00:38:36,300
you said to me was that the people

928
00:38:42,770 --> 00:38:40,619
closest to Bob believe him the most now

929
00:38:44,270 --> 00:38:42,780
that is so important but what do you

930
00:38:46,069 --> 00:38:44,280
mean by that

931
00:38:48,230 --> 00:38:46,079
well I mean the people that spend the

932
00:38:50,750 --> 00:38:48,240
most time with them the people who know

933
00:38:52,970 --> 00:38:50,760
him as a person people that know he

934
00:38:55,550 --> 00:38:52,980
doesn't make stuff up that says Gene

935
00:38:58,250 --> 00:38:55,560
Huff is off It said Bob does not care

936
00:39:00,829 --> 00:38:58,260
about the outside world enough to where

937
00:39:02,870 --> 00:39:00,839
he'd make up some big elaborate lie yeah

938
00:39:05,810 --> 00:39:02,880
it just doesn't care he lives in Bob

939
00:39:08,030 --> 00:39:05,820
world he does experiments he builds

940
00:39:10,250 --> 00:39:08,040
things in his lab yeah you know he loves

941
00:39:12,290 --> 00:39:10,260
that kind of uh focusing on that part of

942
00:39:14,990 --> 00:39:12,300
his life and he does not care he he

943
00:39:16,849 --> 00:39:15,000
didn't know who Joe Rogan was yeah you

944
00:39:19,190 --> 00:39:16,859
know he doesn't watch television right

945
00:39:21,829 --> 00:39:19,200
so so but you telling me that I think

946
00:39:23,450 --> 00:39:21,839
it's so true and I think that you and I

947
00:39:25,910 --> 00:39:23,460
know that I kind of want people to at

948
00:39:28,310 --> 00:39:25,920
least hear it which is that you and I

949
00:39:30,470 --> 00:39:28,320
people have tried to lie to us many many

950
00:39:32,510 --> 00:39:30,480
actually on a daily basis many many

951
00:39:33,829 --> 00:39:32,520
times about UFO stuff trying to entice

952
00:39:36,470 --> 00:39:33,839
us

953
00:39:38,450 --> 00:39:36,480
um when you find somebody like that

954
00:39:40,849 --> 00:39:38,460
it's not like they have this perfect

955
00:39:42,710 --> 00:39:40,859
record of their life of being a almost

956
00:39:44,630 --> 00:39:42,720
to a fault because of what Bob

957
00:39:46,430 --> 00:39:44,640
experienced a truthful honest

958
00:39:47,569 --> 00:39:46,440
straightforward precise with his words

959
00:39:49,370 --> 00:39:47,579
person

960
00:39:51,470 --> 00:39:49,380
he became that a lot because of the

961
00:39:54,170 --> 00:39:51,480
damage that was caused by the people

962
00:39:57,349 --> 00:39:54,180
coming at him but when we get people

963
00:39:59,569 --> 00:39:57,359
that come at us with [\h__\h] the closer

964
00:40:02,510 --> 00:39:59,579
you get to their inner circles the more

965
00:40:04,370 --> 00:40:02,520
you hear that there are con artists that

966
00:40:06,349 --> 00:40:04,380
it's [\h__\h] so the important point

967
00:40:08,630 --> 00:40:06,359
that you made that I want to drive home

968
00:40:10,670 --> 00:40:08,640
is that The Closer you get someone who's

969
00:40:13,130 --> 00:40:10,680
who's an honest person the people

970
00:40:14,870 --> 00:40:13,140
closest to them will tell you that his

971
00:40:16,790 --> 00:40:14,880
friends I admit I have interviews with

972
00:40:18,530 --> 00:40:16,800
just people that have known him for 20

973
00:40:21,470 --> 00:40:18,540
years 30 years I've interviewed people

974
00:40:23,870 --> 00:40:21,480
that don't you know uh five years

975
00:40:27,530 --> 00:40:23,880
common thread

976
00:40:30,770 --> 00:40:27,540
he's he's honest to a fault so my my

977
00:40:34,790 --> 00:40:30,780
mouth now is that it's 25 Bob lazar's

978
00:40:36,589 --> 00:40:34,800
fault 25 yours maybe 30 percent Joe and

979
00:40:38,810 --> 00:40:36,599
10 percent uh Dave Foley is that what

980
00:40:40,730 --> 00:40:38,820
you think you are completely bad at math

981
00:40:43,370 --> 00:40:40,740
and that's okay we're going to have a

982
00:40:45,710 --> 00:40:43,380
calculation on Twitter where we we ask

983
00:40:48,589 --> 00:40:45,720
who's at fault so

984
00:40:49,910 --> 00:40:48,599
come full circle back to storm 51. the

985
00:40:53,210 --> 00:40:49,920
film is a big hit

986
00:40:55,310 --> 00:40:53,220
it starts a big dialogue Joe blasts it

987
00:40:57,650 --> 00:40:55,320
out to the universe and it gets people

988
00:41:00,770 --> 00:40:57,660
talking about it and suddenly this guy

989
00:41:04,130 --> 00:41:00,780
on starts a meme on Facebook with a

990
00:41:07,069 --> 00:41:04,140
crazy idea that's right so I got these a

991
00:41:10,130 --> 00:41:07,079
barrage of texts that morning

992
00:41:12,170 --> 00:41:10,140
oh [\h__\h] dude look what happened and I'm

993
00:41:14,450 --> 00:41:12,180
like what happened and all of a sudden

994
00:41:19,310 --> 00:41:14,460
there's millions of people saying storm

995
00:41:20,329 --> 00:41:19,320
Area 51 and some kid just threw that up

996
00:41:23,510 --> 00:41:20,339
right

997
00:41:25,370 --> 00:41:23,520
and the thing was it got so big so quick

998
00:41:27,109 --> 00:41:25,380
so first of all I want to find out what

999
00:41:29,510 --> 00:41:27,119
happened how did this happen no one it's

1000
00:41:31,190 --> 00:41:29,520
day no one's storming Area 51 like you

1001
00:41:32,630 --> 00:41:31,200
and I are not about breaching that kind

1002
00:41:35,030 --> 00:41:32,640
of boundary we've talked about that a

1003
00:41:36,890 --> 00:41:35,040
lot what is going on this is a cultural

1004
00:41:39,109 --> 00:41:36,900
phenomenon now that phenomenon couldn't

1005
00:41:41,270 --> 00:41:39,119
have started if there wasn't these

1006
00:41:43,970 --> 00:41:41,280
precursors but I'm like what is going on

1007
00:41:45,770 --> 00:41:43,980
so I found the kid in Bakersfield right

1008
00:41:49,370 --> 00:41:45,780
and I I

1009
00:41:54,530 --> 00:41:49,380
was able to obtain a PR his cell phone

1010
00:41:57,109 --> 00:41:54,540
number right so I just um I called it

1011
00:41:59,510 --> 00:41:57,119
and then I texted it and I said this is

1012
00:42:02,270 --> 00:41:59,520
Jeremy Corbell can you please answer me

1013
00:42:03,770 --> 00:42:02,280
there have been no interviews no nothing

1014
00:42:06,109 --> 00:42:03,780
right

1015
00:42:08,930 --> 00:42:06,119
probably the the smartest thing that kid

1016
00:42:11,450 --> 00:42:08,940
did compared to other things that he did

1017
00:42:14,270 --> 00:42:11,460
which was call me back

1018
00:42:16,430 --> 00:42:14,280
so he had ghosted every major news

1019
00:42:18,349 --> 00:42:16,440
Outlet when I texted him this is Jeremy

1020
00:42:20,690 --> 00:42:18,359
Corby I think I did a video right so

1021
00:42:21,890 --> 00:42:20,700
like hey hey hey I'm not you know a fake

1022
00:42:23,510 --> 00:42:21,900
number

1023
00:42:26,630 --> 00:42:23,520
calls me back

1024
00:42:29,630 --> 00:42:26,640
I was like why did you do this and he's

1025
00:42:31,190 --> 00:42:29,640
like well um I know I it's cool right I

1026
00:42:34,550 --> 00:42:31,200
mean it's neat I well I watched your

1027
00:42:36,770 --> 00:42:34,560
movie uh babazar every 515 then I saw uh

1028
00:42:40,310 --> 00:42:36,780
you know the podcast with with with Joe

1029
00:42:42,050 --> 00:42:40,320
Rogan and balboazar and you and uh man

1030
00:42:43,370 --> 00:42:42,060
um I just thought it was funny you know

1031
00:42:46,370 --> 00:42:43,380
I just thought it was funny like store

1032
00:42:49,190 --> 00:42:46,380
mayor 51 I'm like okay

1033
00:42:50,810 --> 00:42:49,200
there might be some blowback I remember

1034
00:42:54,530 --> 00:42:50,820
saying that right

1035
00:42:56,510 --> 00:42:54,540
so next thing I know within this 24 hour

1036
00:42:58,490 --> 00:42:56,520
period where I'm just like oh that's

1037
00:43:01,250 --> 00:42:58,500
cool man listen let's not get people to

1038
00:43:03,170 --> 00:43:01,260
storm air 51 and instead why don't you

1039
00:43:04,910 --> 00:43:03,180
come on with me and I'll put up a little

1040
00:43:06,470 --> 00:43:04,920
YouTube thing where we talk about it

1041
00:43:08,690 --> 00:43:06,480
where we're just trying to have fun and

1042
00:43:10,849 --> 00:43:08,700
not storm a base I don't think he

1043
00:43:12,109 --> 00:43:10,859
understood the gravity of what had

1044
00:43:15,290 --> 00:43:12,119
happened

1045
00:43:19,130 --> 00:43:15,300
next thing I know he's calling me from a

1046
00:43:21,829 --> 00:43:19,140
bathroom and he's like the FBI are going

1047
00:43:24,349 --> 00:43:21,839
to my mom and they're looking for me I'm

1048
00:43:26,630 --> 00:43:24,359
working in a vape shop and I don't know

1049
00:43:29,510 --> 00:43:26,640
what to do and I'm like okay I know what

1050
00:43:31,130 --> 00:43:29,520
to do we're gonna call the G-Man I

1051
00:43:32,510 --> 00:43:31,140
called you up

1052
00:43:34,910 --> 00:43:32,520
and I was like look I don't know what

1053
00:43:37,309 --> 00:43:34,920
this is about I'm not involved but this

1054
00:43:39,050 --> 00:43:37,319
is a big Meme and this kid has the FBI

1055
00:43:41,630 --> 00:43:39,060
talking to his mom knocking on his home

1056
00:43:44,450 --> 00:43:41,640
door but he's at work right now what

1057
00:43:46,069 --> 00:43:44,460
does he do and you're like I've got a

1058
00:43:48,170 --> 00:43:46,079
lawyer and he needs to have

1059
00:43:51,589 --> 00:43:48,180
representation from the beginning

1060
00:43:53,150 --> 00:43:51,599
two uh you should because I have some

1061
00:43:55,309 --> 00:43:53,160
contacts that I can call within federal

1062
00:43:58,190 --> 00:43:55,319
agencies you should call and so do you

1063
00:44:01,370 --> 00:43:58,200
but you're like I'll do that you do this

1064
00:44:05,210 --> 00:44:01,380
call and try to get that sorted so I got

1065
00:44:08,990 --> 00:44:05,220
a kid on the phone I called Central FBI

1066
00:44:11,990 --> 00:44:09,000
then we routed directly to the office in

1067
00:44:15,170 --> 00:44:12,000
Bakersfield where uh the people looking

1068
00:44:15,950 --> 00:44:15,180
for him would be and I on the phone with

1069
00:44:19,790 --> 00:44:15,960
him

1070
00:44:21,470 --> 00:44:19,800
talk with the uh it wasn't quite the

1071
00:44:23,329 --> 00:44:21,480
agents that came in but it was the

1072
00:44:26,390 --> 00:44:23,339
people that knew they were tacit and my

1073
00:44:28,309 --> 00:44:26,400
question was this is this real are they

1074
00:44:30,410 --> 00:44:28,319
real federal agents can you confirm to

1075
00:44:31,730 --> 00:44:30,420
me that so-and-so's name is a real

1076
00:44:33,230 --> 00:44:31,740
federal agent that's what you and I do

1077
00:44:35,390 --> 00:44:33,240
every time people always tell us their

1078
00:44:37,730 --> 00:44:35,400
FBI okay well let's find out right

1079
00:44:41,270 --> 00:44:37,740
happens all the time so we I confirm

1080
00:44:43,250 --> 00:44:41,280
through central line that they are okay

1081
00:44:44,569 --> 00:44:43,260
whatever they want to talk about to my

1082
00:44:46,309 --> 00:44:44,579
friend who's on the line right now and

1083
00:44:47,990 --> 00:44:46,319
they had heard about the movie they had

1084
00:44:50,270 --> 00:44:48,000
heard about the Joe Rogan podcast this

1085
00:44:52,790 --> 00:44:50,280
is the FBI they had heard about the

1086
00:44:55,250 --> 00:44:52,800
storm meme obviously and sent agents out

1087
00:44:56,930 --> 00:44:55,260
so there we are you got the lawyer on

1088
00:44:58,670 --> 00:44:56,940
Deck ready to go

1089
00:45:01,370 --> 00:44:58,680
turns out they just wanted to make sure

1090
00:45:03,829 --> 00:45:01,380
the guy wasn't like serious or whatever

1091
00:45:05,990 --> 00:45:03,839
that it wasn't he wasn't some extremist

1092
00:45:08,390 --> 00:45:06,000
you know some terrorist domestic

1093
00:45:10,670 --> 00:45:08,400
extremist group and clearly the guy

1094
00:45:12,710 --> 00:45:10,680
wasn't so he had the kid ended up

1095
00:45:15,170 --> 00:45:12,720
talking to him at home we didn't have to

1096
00:45:17,569 --> 00:45:15,180
call in the big dogs is the point so

1097
00:45:20,329 --> 00:45:17,579
everything's fine however I'm like

1098
00:45:21,829 --> 00:45:20,339
George this is so cool let's go out

1099
00:45:24,829 --> 00:45:21,839
there that'll be fun and you're like

1100
00:45:27,829 --> 00:45:24,839
hold the [\h__\h] up you're like I'm a news

1101
00:45:29,750 --> 00:45:27,839
reporter and I'm going to cover it but

1102
00:45:31,670 --> 00:45:29,760
if you want to be part of it you

1103
00:45:32,870 --> 00:45:31,680
shouldn't be planning nothing I have

1104
00:45:35,210 --> 00:45:32,880
there are people out there that have

1105
00:45:36,829 --> 00:45:35,220
businesses and they should do their own

1106
00:45:40,490 --> 00:45:36,839
thing so explain the difference between

1107
00:45:42,890 --> 00:45:40,500
the alien what is that what is uh the

1108
00:45:45,230 --> 00:45:42,900
alien Research Center out there and why

1109
00:45:47,450 --> 00:45:45,240
we decided to kind of go to George's

1110
00:45:49,430 --> 00:45:47,460
event your your buddy let's get out of

1111
00:45:51,829 --> 00:45:49,440
control really fast suddenly you have

1112
00:45:54,530 --> 00:45:51,839
something like two million people on

1113
00:45:57,470 --> 00:45:54,540
Facebook saying yes we'll be there for

1114
00:46:00,470 --> 00:45:57,480
an event September 20th out there in the

1115
00:46:02,690 --> 00:46:00,480
desert around Area 51 and there are

1116
00:46:04,730 --> 00:46:02,700
boasts being made of people saying let's

1117
00:46:07,130 --> 00:46:04,740
see them aliens they can't stop all of

1118
00:46:09,829 --> 00:46:07,140
us we'll go across the line and storm in

1119
00:46:12,050 --> 00:46:09,839
the base and and kick in the doors and

1120
00:46:15,290 --> 00:46:12,060
go see where the flying saucers are

1121
00:46:17,630 --> 00:46:15,300
which is absolutely Preposterous

1122
00:46:19,490 --> 00:46:17,640
um over the years over the decades I've

1123
00:46:22,250 --> 00:46:19,500
had all kinds of people come to me and

1124
00:46:25,130 --> 00:46:22,260
say I want to sneak into Area 51 what's

1125
00:46:27,950 --> 00:46:25,140
the best way I can go or let's all get a

1126
00:46:29,630 --> 00:46:27,960
bunch of let's get 25 uh RVs and all

1127
00:46:31,670 --> 00:46:29,640
drive across the border at the same time

1128
00:46:34,130 --> 00:46:31,680
they can't stop us so my advice has

1129
00:46:36,829 --> 00:46:34,140
always been yes they can yes they can

1130
00:46:38,990 --> 00:46:36,839
yes they can don't do it it's a bad idea

1131
00:46:40,970 --> 00:46:39,000
I mean there are legitimate National

1132
00:46:44,030 --> 00:46:40,980
Security Programs that go on out there

1133
00:46:46,309 --> 00:46:44,040
it is a a jewel in our national security

1134
00:46:48,829 --> 00:46:46,319
system it's a very important facility

1135
00:46:51,530 --> 00:46:48,839
even now don't mess with it yeah we we

1136
00:46:53,750 --> 00:46:51,540
need it we need it this is this is part

1137
00:46:55,430 --> 00:46:53,760
of what we need so you're you're kind of

1138
00:46:57,230 --> 00:46:55,440
laying it out for me because I'm kind of

1139
00:47:01,490 --> 00:46:57,240
like sleep deprived I'm watching a movie

1140
00:47:02,750 --> 00:47:01,500
and you're like hold up so what is what

1141
00:47:05,630 --> 00:47:02,760
is

1142
00:47:08,030 --> 00:47:05,640
um the Rachel Bar and Grill now named

1143
00:47:09,710 --> 00:47:08,040
after Bob lazar's event series with you

1144
00:47:11,510 --> 00:47:09,720
explain what that is explain what

1145
00:47:14,089 --> 00:47:11,520
George's thing is so a little town of

1146
00:47:19,069 --> 00:47:14,099
Rachel is pretty close to one of the

1147
00:47:22,250 --> 00:47:19,079
entrances to Area 51 and in 1989 before

1148
00:47:23,750 --> 00:47:22,260
we unleashed UFOs the best evidence the

1149
00:47:25,250 --> 00:47:23,760
little business the main business in

1150
00:47:28,550 --> 00:47:25,260
town was called the Rachel Bar and Grill

1151
00:47:30,650 --> 00:47:28,560
Joe and Pat Travis ran it there'd be

1152
00:47:34,309 --> 00:47:30,660
Cowboys in there occasional people from

1153
00:47:36,530 --> 00:47:34,319
Area 51 and then Travelers on that

1154
00:47:38,930 --> 00:47:36,540
Highway who would need to stop for gas

1155
00:47:41,390 --> 00:47:38,940
or or food or something like that it was

1156
00:47:44,210 --> 00:47:41,400
the only business there after that

1157
00:47:47,450 --> 00:47:44,220
series aired everything changed it

1158
00:47:49,550 --> 00:47:47,460
became the little alien they changed the

1159
00:47:52,730 --> 00:47:49,560
name of it suddenly they had tourists

1160
00:47:54,349 --> 00:47:52,740
showing up UFO Hunters they added rooms

1161
00:47:58,309 --> 00:47:54,359
they added trailers that became a little

1162
00:48:00,589 --> 00:47:58,319
Motel there travel a number of Travelers

1163
00:48:02,569 --> 00:48:00,599
increased greatly they realized this is

1164
00:48:04,970 --> 00:48:02,579
a way we can hang on this this business

1165
00:48:07,010 --> 00:48:04,980
can survive out here the mom was a

1166
00:48:09,829 --> 00:48:07,020
beautiful fluid on Dry Lake beds like

1167
00:48:12,170 --> 00:48:09,839
spaceships from another world they seem

1168
00:48:14,690 --> 00:48:12,180
to ride on hibiscus materials channeled

1169
00:48:16,270 --> 00:48:14,700
through empty space by heat that rises

1170
00:48:19,250 --> 00:48:16,280
and separates

1171
00:48:22,130 --> 00:48:19,260
petrifies everything it contacts like

1172
00:48:24,950 --> 00:48:22,140
like a like a green glass honey

1173
00:48:26,990 --> 00:48:24,960
a goddamn psychedelic liquid drowning

1174
00:48:31,069 --> 00:48:27,000
The Emptiness with imagination

1175
00:48:36,530 --> 00:48:33,829
this desert is packed and punctuated by

1176
00:48:38,930 --> 00:48:36,540
a thousand gaping holes created in a

1177
00:48:41,390 --> 00:48:38,940
thousand Atomic blasts that define an

1178
00:48:46,069 --> 00:48:43,130
what are they building in the desert

1179
00:48:48,470 --> 00:48:46,079
north of Las Vegas what are they hiding

1180
00:48:50,569 --> 00:48:48,480
what do they hide [\h__\h] are they hiding I

1181
00:48:52,730 --> 00:48:50,579
have actually watched The Craft do

1182
00:48:55,490 --> 00:48:52,740
Maneuvers one night for about 20 minutes

1183
00:48:57,490 --> 00:48:55,500
even today ever seen anything that could

1184
00:48:59,630 --> 00:48:57,500
really move as fast

1185
00:49:01,840 --> 00:48:59,640
don't open the door because then the

1186
00:49:05,690 --> 00:49:01,850
bugs come in laughs

1187
00:49:07,450 --> 00:49:05,700
[Music]

1188
00:49:07,610 --> 00:49:07,460
well get a few more goodies

1189
00:49:09,260 --> 00:49:07,620
[Music]

1190
00:49:14,569 --> 00:49:09,270
[Laughter]

1191
00:49:17,390 --> 00:49:14,579
[Music]

1192
00:49:19,490 --> 00:49:17,400
my name is Pat Travis I own the little

1193
00:49:22,849 --> 00:49:19,500
alien in beautiful downtown Rachel

1194
00:49:26,450 --> 00:49:22,859
Nevada the little aliens started in 1988

1195
00:49:29,470 --> 00:49:26,460
actually in 1990 but my late husband and

1196
00:49:34,130 --> 00:49:29,480
I have owned the little alien for since

1197
00:49:37,250 --> 00:49:34,140
1988. we were newcomers to Rachel well

1198
00:49:39,530 --> 00:49:37,260
just after that the UFO activity started

1199
00:49:40,730 --> 00:49:39,540
and it was like a gift that was put in

1200
00:49:43,730 --> 00:49:40,740
our hands

1201
00:49:46,309 --> 00:49:43,740
and we needed something for us we had

1202
00:49:49,270 --> 00:49:46,319
added a couple of motel rooms so here we

1203
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:49,280
are with more and better now

1204
00:49:54,609 --> 00:49:52,330
next time stay the night

1205
00:49:57,950 --> 00:49:54,619
[Laughter]

1206
00:50:01,190 --> 00:49:57,960
are we ready to roll again we had tour

1207
00:50:03,230 --> 00:50:01,200
groups earlier today and it's just you

1208
00:50:05,089 --> 00:50:03,240
go in you do what you have to do and

1209
00:50:07,970 --> 00:50:05,099
then come out and mingle with everybody

1210
00:50:11,030 --> 00:50:07,980
that's what life's all about

1211
00:50:13,309 --> 00:50:11,040
this isn't work this is fun there are

1212
00:50:16,490 --> 00:50:13,319
people that come here from every country

1213
00:50:18,109 --> 00:50:16,500
in the world and if you look at all the

1214
00:50:20,089 --> 00:50:18,119
dollar bills that are signed on our

1215
00:50:22,550 --> 00:50:20,099
ceiling you'll see so many different

1216
00:50:25,550 --> 00:50:22,560
countries every state in the United

1217
00:50:26,990 --> 00:50:25,560
States people have been here from and

1218
00:50:30,410 --> 00:50:27,000
it's awesome

1219
00:50:32,690 --> 00:50:30,420
and this is really where things started

1220
00:50:35,290 --> 00:50:32,700
you know and and it's been something

1221
00:50:38,809 --> 00:50:35,300
that keeps going on

1222
00:50:42,650 --> 00:50:38,819
the one question that everybody asks is

1223
00:50:45,829 --> 00:50:42,660
how do I get to area 51. it just goes

1224
00:50:48,650 --> 00:50:45,839
without saying so we give them we have a

1225
00:50:49,849 --> 00:50:48,660
little map we teach them directions and

1226
00:50:52,970 --> 00:50:49,859
let them go

1227
00:50:55,670 --> 00:50:52,980
and we've had some that don't like to

1228
00:50:59,210 --> 00:50:55,680
listen to us you've got to pay attention

1229
00:51:02,329 --> 00:50:59,220
it is a high secure area every country

1230
00:51:03,890 --> 00:51:02,339
in the world has this type but ours is

1231
00:51:05,870 --> 00:51:03,900
really well known about

1232
00:51:08,510 --> 00:51:05,880
yourself world's best known secret base

1233
00:51:10,309 --> 00:51:08,520
because of Bob Lazar that's it and when

1234
00:51:12,829 --> 00:51:10,319
there are secrets everybody wants to

1235
00:51:18,109 --> 00:51:12,839
know a little bit about that secret

1236
00:51:22,190 --> 00:51:18,119
you know when Bob Lazar and George Knapp

1237
00:51:25,609 --> 00:51:22,200
John Lear Jean have it was just a whole

1238
00:51:27,349 --> 00:51:25,619
group that was continued to go

1239
00:51:30,470 --> 00:51:27,359
and it was all something that was

1240
00:51:34,010 --> 00:51:30,480
brought here and given to us and a lot

1241
00:51:36,650 --> 00:51:34,020
of Articles were written because of so

1242
00:51:38,630 --> 00:51:36,660
many different sightings of so much so

1243
00:51:41,510 --> 00:51:38,640
many different things

1244
00:51:44,089 --> 00:51:41,520
that it's like a snowball and there's no

1245
00:51:48,349 --> 00:51:44,099
end to this people come here from around

1246
00:51:50,930 --> 00:51:48,359
the world to talk about sightings

1247
00:51:54,290 --> 00:51:50,940
do I believe all of them probably not

1248
00:51:56,809 --> 00:51:54,300
but there are many of them I do

1249
00:51:58,750 --> 00:51:56,819
because when you talk to somebody you

1250
00:52:02,030 --> 00:51:58,760
know whether they're really

1251
00:52:04,490 --> 00:52:02,040
projecting something or if it's kind of

1252
00:52:07,849 --> 00:52:04,500
just a story do you believe bubbles are

1253
00:52:14,150 --> 00:52:11,930
oh if a man is going to tell a lie about

1254
00:52:16,970 --> 00:52:14,160
something it changes because you don't

1255
00:52:19,849 --> 00:52:16,980
remember all those things if you tell

1256
00:52:22,030 --> 00:52:19,859
the truth about something it always

1257
00:52:25,910 --> 00:52:22,040
stays the same

1258
00:52:29,990 --> 00:52:25,920
can I prove it no but I can tell you

1259
00:52:33,890 --> 00:52:30,000
when I tell that my arms will cover with

1260
00:52:37,010 --> 00:52:33,900
goosebumps it's happening now

1261
00:52:39,950 --> 00:52:37,020
do I believe that there are aliens that

1262
00:52:44,329 --> 00:52:39,960
walk among us without a doubt

1263
00:52:49,010 --> 00:52:44,339
I have no qualms about that

1264
00:52:54,530 --> 00:52:51,170
that's a fact

1265
00:52:59,089 --> 00:52:56,390
and then you had other people move to

1266
00:53:02,270 --> 00:52:59,099
the town the same time not that long

1267
00:53:04,730 --> 00:53:02,280
later it's tight haiko and nearby

1268
00:53:06,890 --> 00:53:04,740
community isn't really even a town it's

1269
00:53:08,690 --> 00:53:06,900
more like a an intersection there's some

1270
00:53:12,290 --> 00:53:08,700
ranches there but a guy named George

1271
00:53:14,329 --> 00:53:12,300
Harris a Las Vegas businessman created

1272
00:53:16,970 --> 00:53:14,339
something called the alien Research

1273
00:53:19,309 --> 00:53:16,980
Center it's a big gift shop it's shaped

1274
00:53:23,089 --> 00:53:19,319
like a big Quonset hut it's got a giant

1275
00:53:25,069 --> 00:53:23,099
50 foot tall alien uh robot that looks

1276
00:53:27,170 --> 00:53:25,079
like Gort from The Day the Earth Stood

1277
00:53:29,990 --> 00:53:27,180
Still and he's making a go of it and

1278
00:53:33,109 --> 00:53:30,000
those two uh businesses although they're

1279
00:53:35,329 --> 00:53:33,119
Rivals they also get along a lot so I

1280
00:53:37,609 --> 00:53:35,339
think the guy from Facebook who had

1281
00:53:39,890 --> 00:53:37,619
kicked this thing off made an agreement

1282
00:53:41,690 --> 00:53:39,900
with a little alien let's have an actual

1283
00:53:44,030 --> 00:53:41,700
event let's have some people show up

1284
00:53:46,490 --> 00:53:44,040
maybe we'll make some money get some and

1285
00:53:48,170 --> 00:53:46,500
have some fun out there yeah and and

1286
00:53:50,809 --> 00:53:48,180
George Harris the guy who owned the

1287
00:53:54,230 --> 00:53:50,819
other place saw some potential there too

1288
00:53:56,809 --> 00:53:54,240
but um you know the overall concern that

1289
00:53:58,430 --> 00:53:56,819
we had it got serious real it got

1290
00:54:00,530 --> 00:53:58,440
serious really fast if you know they're

1291
00:54:01,910 --> 00:54:00,540
talking about two million people no one

1292
00:54:04,790 --> 00:54:01,920
really ever believed that that many

1293
00:54:07,130 --> 00:54:04,800
would show up but let's say you had 20

1294
00:54:09,349 --> 00:54:07,140
000 people show up there's no bathrooms

1295
00:54:10,910 --> 00:54:09,359
there's no food there's no you know no

1296
00:54:13,010 --> 00:54:10,920
restaurants out there to speak of

1297
00:54:15,950 --> 00:54:13,020
there's no porta potties there's no

1298
00:54:17,690 --> 00:54:15,960
toilet paper no water uh the the

1299
00:54:20,030 --> 00:54:17,700
possibility for people getting out there

1300
00:54:22,490 --> 00:54:20,040
getting into trouble getting lost having

1301
00:54:24,770 --> 00:54:22,500
their cars break down dying out in the

1302
00:54:27,109 --> 00:54:24,780
desert somewhere a lot of things could

1303
00:54:28,970 --> 00:54:27,119
go wrong it's very real just that these

1304
00:54:31,250 --> 00:54:28,980
big concerts people have you have those

1305
00:54:33,170 --> 00:54:31,260
problems even with those facilities but

1306
00:54:34,910 --> 00:54:33,180
there is nothing out there and again

1307
00:54:37,549 --> 00:54:34,920
nobody thought two million people were

1308
00:54:40,069 --> 00:54:37,559
coming but all of a sudden the

1309
00:54:41,390 --> 00:54:40,079
Department of Defense the dod I mean

1310
00:54:43,430 --> 00:54:41,400
they made an official statement that

1311
00:54:45,410 --> 00:54:43,440
they later retracted like this is what

1312
00:54:47,210 --> 00:54:45,420
happens to people in storm Area 51 and

1313
00:54:48,770 --> 00:54:47,220
it's like a bomber and they ended up

1314
00:54:50,870 --> 00:54:48,780
like taking it off

1315
00:54:53,030 --> 00:54:50,880
but also we got calls

1316
00:54:55,309 --> 00:54:53,040
and people were like what's the intent

1317
00:54:58,730 --> 00:54:55,319
here well we got nothing to do with this

1318
00:55:01,069 --> 00:54:58,740
what the [\h__\h] you know you were like

1319
00:55:03,109 --> 00:55:01,079
this could go really bad and I was

1320
00:55:05,510 --> 00:55:03,119
trying to understand that what did you

1321
00:55:07,970 --> 00:55:05,520
mean we broadcast stories that we felt

1322
00:55:10,010 --> 00:55:07,980
were responsible as a warning to people

1323
00:55:12,109 --> 00:55:10,020
who were unfamiliar with the area look

1324
00:55:13,250 --> 00:55:12,119
this is a really bad idea okay if

1325
00:55:15,829 --> 00:55:13,260
there's going to be that many people

1326
00:55:18,410 --> 00:55:15,839
show up out there it could it could be

1327
00:55:20,030 --> 00:55:18,420
dangerous and Troublesome in a whole

1328
00:55:21,410 --> 00:55:20,040
bunch of different ways so if you're

1329
00:55:24,290 --> 00:55:21,420
going to come out there

1330
00:55:26,690 --> 00:55:24,300
for this event be prepared you know and

1331
00:55:28,670 --> 00:55:26,700
be prepared to be self-sufficient and

1332
00:55:31,910 --> 00:55:28,680
you should know where you can go and

1333
00:55:33,890 --> 00:55:31,920
where you can't and by God by no means

1334
00:55:36,589 --> 00:55:33,900
should you ever consider going across

1335
00:55:39,109 --> 00:55:36,599
the border and the line into Area 51

1336
00:55:41,329 --> 00:55:39,119
it's a bad idea it's illegal you go to

1337
00:55:44,150 --> 00:55:41,339
prison or you could get shot that's

1338
00:55:47,089 --> 00:55:44,160
right and there are mechanisms in place

1339
00:55:49,670 --> 00:55:47,099
that were Amplified to a such a high

1340
00:55:53,089 --> 00:55:49,680
degree on that day so I I remember

1341
00:55:55,549 --> 00:55:53,099
telling the kid hey man let's do don't

1342
00:56:00,109 --> 00:55:55,559
storm Area 51 do an interview with me

1343
00:56:02,690 --> 00:56:00,119
called Don't storm Area 51 and let's try

1344
00:56:05,329 --> 00:56:02,700
to at least divert a little bit of the

1345
00:56:07,730 --> 00:56:05,339
negative you know look what I was told

1346
00:56:10,309 --> 00:56:07,740
by certain agencies is that there could

1347
00:56:13,549 --> 00:56:10,319
be domestic terrorism groups that come

1348
00:56:15,710 --> 00:56:13,559
in to utilize the event itself to do

1349
00:56:17,450 --> 00:56:15,720
something bad when you guys are just

1350
00:56:19,790 --> 00:56:17,460
doing something good now we can't stop

1351
00:56:22,190 --> 00:56:19,800
it it's already happening

1352
00:56:24,109 --> 00:56:22,200
so they're like I think you know what I

1353
00:56:25,790 --> 00:56:24,119
told them I I was like you know I'm

1354
00:56:28,069 --> 00:56:25,800
gonna basically be there because I can't

1355
00:56:30,290 --> 00:56:28,079
not be there I want to make sure that we

1356
00:56:33,770 --> 00:56:30,300
provide something fun I want to be part

1357
00:56:36,170 --> 00:56:33,780
of George Harris's event and you know it

1358
00:56:38,150 --> 00:56:36,180
can't be without uh the idea of the

1359
00:56:40,970 --> 00:56:38,160
movie and being out there so at that

1360
00:56:42,890 --> 00:56:40,980
point I was like okay I can't organize

1361
00:56:46,250 --> 00:56:42,900
it I can't be a part of it in that way

1362
00:56:48,589 --> 00:56:46,260
but what I can do is you know try to

1363
00:56:51,290 --> 00:56:48,599
bring things that and you very smartly

1364
00:56:54,349 --> 00:56:51,300
you're like if you focus your energy at

1365
00:56:56,569 --> 00:56:54,359
George Harris's you are miles from the

1366
00:56:58,430 --> 00:56:56,579
gate and things like that and we could

1367
00:57:00,829 --> 00:56:58,440
actually have fun it's his place he owns

1368
00:57:04,130 --> 00:57:00,839
everything so I called him up uh with

1369
00:57:05,809 --> 00:57:04,140
you and we were like okay look

1370
00:57:08,210 --> 00:57:05,819
um Jeremy wants to try to provide some

1371
00:57:11,030 --> 00:57:08,220
things take it or leave it here you go I

1372
00:57:12,530 --> 00:57:11,040
did ask him I said just let me film in

1373
00:57:13,790 --> 00:57:12,540
your compound let me be the only person

1374
00:57:15,829 --> 00:57:13,800
that films in your compound because I'm

1375
00:57:17,270 --> 00:57:15,839
going to bring a bunch of this is part

1376
00:57:19,790 --> 00:57:17,280
of a developing story so I thought as

1377
00:57:21,770 --> 00:57:19,800
like a documentary or whatever this is

1378
00:57:23,329 --> 00:57:21,780
is born from

1379
00:57:25,970 --> 00:57:23,339
you and Bob

1380
00:57:27,770 --> 00:57:25,980
making the film Joe Rogan blowing

1381
00:57:30,829 --> 00:57:27,780
everything up and then this kid making

1382
00:57:32,990 --> 00:57:30,839
the meme right so he says yeah that

1383
00:57:34,490 --> 00:57:33,000
sounds great who do you have because we

1384
00:57:36,770 --> 00:57:34,500
don't we need some help like do you have

1385
00:57:39,650 --> 00:57:36,780
like a musician or something and I'm

1386
00:57:40,569 --> 00:57:39,660
like uh yeah yeah I got one okay no

1387
00:57:44,089 --> 00:57:40,579
problem

1388
00:57:48,170 --> 00:57:44,099
don't know yeah I don't know anybody so

1389
00:57:49,849 --> 00:57:48,180
a funny story I've never told it but uh

1390
00:57:52,609 --> 00:57:49,859
I called

1391
00:57:54,829 --> 00:57:52,619
a friend of mine who he's just really

1392
00:57:59,210 --> 00:57:54,839
wealthy I just thought wealthy people

1393
00:58:02,510 --> 00:57:59,220
they might know uh somebody that knows a

1394
00:58:05,270 --> 00:58:02,520
famous musician right but I'm musically

1395
00:58:06,589 --> 00:58:05,280
stunted my wife will constantly you know

1396
00:58:08,150 --> 00:58:06,599
you've been giving me a musical

1397
00:58:10,430 --> 00:58:08,160
education starting with the Beatles for

1398
00:58:12,829 --> 00:58:10,440
the last seven years I mean it's like

1399
00:58:15,230 --> 00:58:12,839
I'm musically stunted if it sounds good

1400
00:58:17,569 --> 00:58:15,240
it's good music so I didn't know the

1401
00:58:19,910 --> 00:58:17,579
name but he goes oh yeah yeah no problem

1402
00:58:21,530 --> 00:58:19,920
um I got somebody that I'll put you in

1403
00:58:23,930 --> 00:58:21,540
touch with his name is Paul I said okay

1404
00:58:26,150 --> 00:58:23,940
cool you know I'm like we're like seven

1405
00:58:28,069 --> 00:58:26,160
days out at this point

1406
00:58:30,230 --> 00:58:28,079
and I'm like okay cool

1407
00:58:32,750 --> 00:58:30,240
big musical Talent Jeremy I'm like okay

1408
00:58:33,950 --> 00:58:32,760
great no plays stadiums Jeremy I'm like

1409
00:58:36,109 --> 00:58:33,960
okay great I'm like I don't know

1410
00:58:37,970 --> 00:58:36,119
anything I just need somebody

1411
00:58:40,190 --> 00:58:37,980
because I wanted it to be fun I wanted

1412
00:58:42,950 --> 00:58:40,200
to attract people over that so always I

1413
00:58:46,069 --> 00:58:42,960
get a call and it's

1414
00:58:47,329 --> 00:58:46,079
hey Jeremy this is Paul and I'm like hey

1415
00:58:48,770 --> 00:58:47,339
Paul what's up my name is Jeremy Corbell

1416
00:58:50,089 --> 00:58:48,780
I've got an event in seven days I'm not

1417
00:58:52,069 --> 00:58:50,099
running it but I really want to support

1418
00:58:53,569 --> 00:58:52,079
it and here's the deal like we really

1419
00:58:55,490 --> 00:58:53,579
need a musical person I hear that you

1420
00:58:56,930 --> 00:58:55,500
are very famous in your field I don't

1421
00:58:58,430 --> 00:58:56,940
know your music I really apologize I

1422
00:59:01,010 --> 00:58:58,440
don't listen to music very much

1423
00:59:03,710 --> 00:59:01,020
and we can't pay you oh yeah and and by

1424
00:59:07,190 --> 00:59:03,720
the way we can't pay you yeah we can't

1425
00:59:09,950 --> 00:59:07,200
pay you by the way so

1426
00:59:14,089 --> 00:59:12,230
yeah darling I got you this is sounds

1427
00:59:16,250 --> 00:59:14,099
really exciting I'm really excited about

1428
00:59:18,650 --> 00:59:16,260
what you're doing I'm like cool so what

1429
00:59:20,270 --> 00:59:18,660
do I write down he goes Paul Oakenfold

1430
00:59:22,670 --> 00:59:20,280
I'm like okay how do you spell it or

1431
00:59:25,670 --> 00:59:22,680
apological so

1432
00:59:29,210 --> 00:59:25,680
I get back and I tell the people at the

1433
00:59:32,150 --> 00:59:29,220
alien Research Center Paul Oakenfold has

1434
00:59:36,589 --> 00:59:32,160
agreed to come out into the middle of a

1435
00:59:39,370 --> 00:59:36,599
desert where there is a potential Riot

1436
00:59:42,230 --> 00:59:39,380
occurring right to storm a military base

1437
00:59:44,809 --> 00:59:42,240
and just play some music

1438
00:59:47,690 --> 00:59:44,819
is that good can we do that I hear he's

1439
00:59:51,770 --> 00:59:47,700
popular oh my gosh apparently this guy

1440
00:59:54,589 --> 00:59:51,780
is one of the ogs in music he plays

1441
00:59:55,849 --> 00:59:54,599
stadiums he's super famous for this I

1442
00:59:58,309 --> 00:59:55,859
can't believe he said yes it must have

1443
01:00:00,650 --> 00:59:58,319
been a good pitch so anyway the guy was

1444
01:00:02,030 --> 01:00:00,660
a sweetheart I remember telling our

1445
01:00:05,210 --> 01:00:02,040
buddy

1446
01:00:07,309 --> 01:00:05,220
Robbie Williams hey man because we asked

1447
01:00:09,770 --> 01:00:07,319
him first we called him to try to see he

1448
01:00:11,569 --> 01:00:09,780
was on tour doing something and he goes

1449
01:00:13,970 --> 01:00:11,579
oh you got to know G

1450
01:00:15,470 --> 01:00:13,980
and I'm like and oh gee you know what I

1451
01:00:18,770 --> 01:00:15,480
mean so if Robbie says that then

1452
01:00:21,470 --> 01:00:18,780
obviously he's an OG so now I kind of

1453
01:00:23,390 --> 01:00:21,480
get it I think which is that you know to

1454
01:00:25,849 --> 01:00:23,400
have this guy Paul Oakenfold come out

1455
01:00:28,849 --> 01:00:25,859
and play to for no money in the middle

1456
01:00:30,589 --> 01:00:28,859
of the desert in an act of conflict Zone

1457
01:00:32,690 --> 01:00:30,599
we'll put it that way right it was

1458
01:00:36,109 --> 01:00:32,700
amazing and it was just so cool he did

1459
01:00:39,589 --> 01:00:36,119
it so Paul I never talked to you uh but

1460
01:00:42,650 --> 01:00:39,599
once since then thank you for playing to

1461
01:00:44,329 --> 01:00:42,660
like 150 people and just crushing it

1462
01:00:46,670 --> 01:00:44,339
because that was like yeah it was so

1463
01:00:48,829 --> 01:00:46,680
gracious and so good-natured about the

1464
01:00:51,410 --> 01:00:48,839
whole thing did not face him one bit

1465
01:00:53,510 --> 01:00:51,420
that it was to such a small crowd put on

1466
01:00:56,329 --> 01:00:53,520
a tremendous show as if though he was

1467
01:00:59,210 --> 01:00:56,339
planned to 50 000 people and it was it

1468
01:01:00,349 --> 01:00:59,220
was an amazing uh aspect of the whole uh

1469
01:01:02,030 --> 01:01:00,359
weekend

1470
01:01:02,950 --> 01:01:02,040
um you know there was somebody else who

1471
01:01:07,010 --> 01:01:02,960
came

1472
01:01:09,589 --> 01:01:07,020
uh who uh who wrote a very detailed

1473
01:01:12,410 --> 01:01:09,599
article based on what happened oh yeah

1474
01:01:15,049 --> 01:01:12,420
writer from Rolling Stone Rolling Stone

1475
01:01:17,510 --> 01:01:15,059
Steven Roderick Stephen Roderick

1476
01:01:19,849 --> 01:01:17,520
talented writer yeah has done some

1477
01:01:21,349 --> 01:01:19,859
really big pieces for Rolling Stone we

1478
01:01:23,390 --> 01:01:21,359
were kind of thrilled that he was coming

1479
01:01:25,430 --> 01:01:23,400
that he was going to cover it and he

1480
01:01:27,530 --> 01:01:25,440
focused a lot on you

1481
01:01:29,809 --> 01:01:27,540
um and you know we were all looking

1482
01:01:31,609 --> 01:01:29,819
forward to what that piece would be for

1483
01:01:33,650 --> 01:01:31,619
months after the event until it finally

1484
01:01:36,170 --> 01:01:33,660
came out what did you think after it

1485
01:01:37,309 --> 01:01:36,180
came out well okay let me back up just

1486
01:01:38,089 --> 01:01:37,319
one second

1487
01:01:40,370 --> 01:01:38,099
um

1488
01:01:42,589 --> 01:01:40,380
so I didn't know anything I just got

1489
01:01:43,490 --> 01:01:42,599
somebody called me and said hey and I

1490
01:01:46,010 --> 01:01:43,500
don't remember who called me they're

1491
01:01:47,630 --> 01:01:46,020
like Rolling Stone wants to talk to you

1492
01:01:49,970 --> 01:01:47,640
real quick and I thought okay they want

1493
01:01:52,010 --> 01:01:49,980
a quote about storm so I was like

1494
01:01:54,589 --> 01:01:52,020
they're called real quick Stephen calls

1495
01:01:55,609 --> 01:01:54,599
me and I'm thinking I go okay uh you

1496
01:01:58,370 --> 01:01:55,619
know what do you want to know about I'll

1497
01:02:00,650 --> 01:01:58,380
give you a quote no no he goes hey man

1498
01:02:02,930 --> 01:02:00,660
um you know is there like

1499
01:02:04,130 --> 01:02:02,940
is there like are there like bathrooms

1500
01:02:06,230 --> 01:02:04,140
out there

1501
01:02:08,690 --> 01:02:06,240
and I'm like I yeah yeah I think they're

1502
01:02:12,710 --> 01:02:08,700
gonna put put bathrooms out there

1503
01:02:14,450 --> 01:02:12,720
okay um so like in my SUV in my car is

1504
01:02:16,670 --> 01:02:14,460
there a place I can pitch a tent I go

1505
01:02:19,609 --> 01:02:16,680
whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa hold up

1506
01:02:21,710 --> 01:02:19,619
are you coming to storm everything goes

1507
01:02:23,030 --> 01:02:21,720
they didn't tell you I go tell me what

1508
01:02:25,549 --> 01:02:23,040
and he goes

1509
01:02:28,370 --> 01:02:25,559
I would like to follow you through this

1510
01:02:31,430 --> 01:02:28,380
whole experience during it

1511
01:02:33,589 --> 01:02:31,440
and after it and write a story and I was

1512
01:02:35,930 --> 01:02:33,599
like what are you talking about he's

1513
01:02:38,329 --> 01:02:35,940
like this is like hardcore he goes he

1514
01:02:40,730 --> 01:02:38,339
has to introduce himself he goes I am a

1515
01:02:42,289 --> 01:02:40,740
staff writer for Rolling Stone my name

1516
01:02:44,150 --> 01:02:42,299
is Stephen Roderick I've written some

1517
01:02:44,870 --> 01:02:44,160
big articles you might have heard of

1518
01:02:46,910 --> 01:02:44,880
them

1519
01:02:48,950 --> 01:02:46,920
and I didn't know and I'd go back to

1520
01:02:51,770 --> 01:02:48,960
look it turns out he wrote that famous

1521
01:02:54,309 --> 01:02:51,780
smash piece on Johnny Depp yeah brutal

1522
01:02:57,349 --> 01:02:54,319
brutal we're just

1523
01:02:59,450 --> 01:02:57,359
destroys Johnny Depp so now I'm thinking

1524
01:03:01,430 --> 01:02:59,460
after I look at that what is this guy

1525
01:03:03,829 --> 01:03:01,440
gonna do like is it he gonna be like

1526
01:03:06,109 --> 01:03:03,839
every other parachute journalist on

1527
01:03:08,930 --> 01:03:06,119
planet Earth that jumps into the UFO

1528
01:03:10,910 --> 01:03:08,940
topic that knows nothing about it and

1529
01:03:14,809 --> 01:03:10,920
doesn't realize how serious it's getting

1530
01:03:16,970 --> 01:03:14,819
and do some smash piece um like [\h__\h] no

1531
01:03:21,349 --> 01:03:16,980
and then I thought you know what

1532
01:03:23,809 --> 01:03:21,359
if he agrees to stay in my RV then he's

1533
01:03:26,210 --> 01:03:23,819
really in then he's really in so so

1534
01:03:28,609 --> 01:03:26,220
ended up calling him back I think uh

1535
01:03:30,410 --> 01:03:28,619
just after I was like here's the deal

1536
01:03:32,450 --> 01:03:30,420
yeah come cover the event

1537
01:03:34,490 --> 01:03:32,460
you want to stay in my RV he's like

1538
01:03:38,150 --> 01:03:34,500
awesome I was going to pitch a tent and

1539
01:03:39,650 --> 01:03:38,160
I'm like awesome okay so just to kind of

1540
01:03:41,809 --> 01:03:39,660
back you up from from what you said what

1541
01:03:44,870 --> 01:03:41,819
did I think about the article

1542
01:03:47,569 --> 01:03:44,880
what I thought was this is a hyper

1543
01:03:50,630 --> 01:03:47,579
talented writer and I liked him he's

1544
01:03:52,910 --> 01:03:50,640
like a good guy and I was baffled at the

1545
01:03:54,950 --> 01:03:52,920
fact that he wanted to follow us through

1546
01:03:57,710 --> 01:03:54,960
the experience and then do something

1547
01:03:59,809 --> 01:03:57,720
more like come to my house later so I'm

1548
01:04:01,250 --> 01:03:59,819
so it's it's like it feels good you're

1549
01:04:02,750 --> 01:04:01,260
like oh [\h__\h] you know you got the

1550
01:04:05,329 --> 01:04:02,760
Rolling Stone following you it felt rock

1551
01:04:07,789 --> 01:04:05,339
and roll but I was like what is this guy

1552
01:04:09,230 --> 01:04:07,799
up to is he really gonna do a good

1553
01:04:10,730 --> 01:04:09,240
article that takes it seriously I don't

1554
01:04:13,010 --> 01:04:10,740
want to contribute to [\h__\h] I

1555
01:04:16,370 --> 01:04:13,020
remember when I met him I walked into

1556
01:04:18,289 --> 01:04:16,380
your RV and you and he are there a

1557
01:04:20,510 --> 01:04:18,299
couple of other people and it got silent

1558
01:04:23,329 --> 01:04:20,520
like I just walked into a church or

1559
01:04:25,370 --> 01:04:23,339
something and then we the conversation

1560
01:04:28,309 --> 01:04:25,380
started up again and it got comfortable

1561
01:04:30,349 --> 01:04:28,319
and it was fun and then Paul Oakenfold

1562
01:04:32,809 --> 01:04:30,359
came in and then it got kind of raucous

1563
01:04:35,030 --> 01:04:32,819
and it was even more fun it was a a

1564
01:04:37,670 --> 01:04:35,040
great little moment there it was that I

1565
01:04:41,150 --> 01:04:37,680
have footage of that so so I was able to

1566
01:04:44,569 --> 01:04:41,160
have um my buddy the same guy that flew

1567
01:04:46,190 --> 01:04:44,579
from uh Mexico the first time and just

1568
01:04:48,530 --> 01:04:46,200
without knowing what he was doing came

1569
01:04:51,609 --> 01:04:48,540
and filmed with us for the first time on

1570
01:04:55,670 --> 01:04:51,619
camera Jay Stratton right same dude

1571
01:04:58,910 --> 01:04:55,680
Niles Harrison Niles Harrison My Mentor

1572
01:05:00,829 --> 01:04:58,920
in cinematography who knows that I don't

1573
01:05:03,890 --> 01:05:00,839
even know how to focus aperture but has

1574
01:05:05,930 --> 01:05:03,900
helped me in in all this stuff and then

1575
01:05:07,370 --> 01:05:05,940
Dave Foley was in there Dave Foley was

1576
01:05:09,410 --> 01:05:07,380
there but my point is we have the only

1577
01:05:10,910 --> 01:05:09,420
footages but we have footage of this so

1578
01:05:13,910 --> 01:05:10,920
in that RV that you're talking about

1579
01:05:15,890 --> 01:05:13,920
Dave Foley Paul Oakenfold for the first

1580
01:05:18,470 --> 01:05:15,900
time I've been meeting Stephen Roderick

1581
01:05:20,930 --> 01:05:18,480
you me some other reporters it was it

1582
01:05:22,430 --> 01:05:20,940
was it was so crazy and and I I want to

1583
01:05:24,170 --> 01:05:22,440
show everybody that footage real quick

1584
01:05:26,210 --> 01:05:24,180
so they can just see a moment of it and

1585
01:05:27,970 --> 01:05:26,220
you'll be pleased to know I'm I'm become

1586
01:05:31,490 --> 01:05:27,980
obsessed with UFOs

1587
01:05:39,210 --> 01:05:31,500
some level of empathetic toward toward

1588
01:05:45,530 --> 01:05:43,089
[Laughter]

1589
01:05:47,710 --> 01:05:45,540
right there

1590
01:05:53,049 --> 01:05:47,720
awesome thanks guys thank you

1591
01:06:00,230 --> 01:05:57,890
okay I was also impressed that they

1592
01:06:03,289 --> 01:06:00,240
fully came out because I think at that

1593
01:06:04,970 --> 01:06:03,299
point we had never hung out in person so

1594
01:06:06,470 --> 01:06:04,980
I remember we had talked so much on that

1595
01:06:08,990 --> 01:06:06,480
we had videoed whatever but I was like

1596
01:06:11,329 --> 01:06:09,000
Foley look come hang out with me and

1597
01:06:13,910 --> 01:06:11,339
George in the desert it might be a

1598
01:06:15,770 --> 01:06:13,920
devastating Riot but and there might be

1599
01:06:18,410 --> 01:06:15,780
a ton of agencies and there will be a

1600
01:06:20,690 --> 01:06:18,420
wrestling and but you can stay in my RV

1601
01:06:22,609 --> 01:06:20,700
too I got a couch in there you know

1602
01:06:25,250 --> 01:06:22,619
someone's not using this a couple bunks

1603
01:06:26,809 --> 01:06:25,260
and he's like I'm in I go what he goes

1604
01:06:28,910 --> 01:06:26,819
I'm in I'm like that's when I knew I

1605
01:06:30,349 --> 01:06:28,920
loved Dave Foley yeah what a great guy

1606
01:06:31,730 --> 01:06:30,359
that was the first time I ever got to

1607
01:06:33,950 --> 01:06:31,740
meet him and you know that friendship

1608
01:06:36,170 --> 01:06:33,960
that you guys have and me to a lesser

1609
01:06:38,390 --> 01:06:36,180
degree that'll be forever that was the

1610
01:06:40,190 --> 01:06:38,400
first day that we really got to hang in

1611
01:06:42,109 --> 01:06:40,200
physical capacity it was just so cool

1612
01:06:43,609 --> 01:06:42,119
man so finally we're going to tell Dave

1613
01:06:47,569 --> 01:06:43,619
the real plan

1614
01:06:49,910 --> 01:06:47,579
we're storming the gate Area 51 and

1615
01:06:52,010 --> 01:06:49,920
Dave's leading the charge this was not

1616
01:06:54,049 --> 01:06:52,020
[\h__\h] I kept saying this is so far

1617
01:06:55,849 --> 01:06:54,059
it's [\h__\h] I figure we bring a

1618
01:06:57,589 --> 01:06:55,859
comedian you laugh him out of us

1619
01:07:00,410 --> 01:06:57,599
arresting us they're not gonna stop a

1620
01:07:03,589 --> 01:07:00,420
celebrity right right especially a funny

1621
01:07:06,109 --> 01:07:03,599
mid-level celebrity uh

1622
01:07:08,450 --> 01:07:06,119
it's been off TV for 20 years hey well

1623
01:07:10,490 --> 01:07:08,460
look in in the 90s you might have gotten

1624
01:07:11,930 --> 01:07:10,500
a pass but you better start working

1625
01:07:13,849 --> 01:07:11,940
because you got to laugh us out of this

1626
01:07:17,450 --> 01:07:13,859
man yeah

1627
01:07:19,789 --> 01:07:17,460
I mean most people in in uh

1628
01:07:22,309 --> 01:07:19,799
involved with military police are huge

1629
01:07:23,510 --> 01:07:22,319
Kids in the Hall of fans uh because

1630
01:07:25,970 --> 01:07:23,520
they're most of them are closet

1631
01:07:28,849 --> 01:07:25,980
homosexuals well that's the exact reason

1632
01:07:30,289 --> 01:07:28,859
why we're bringing you man you can

1633
01:07:31,910 --> 01:07:30,299
relate to them

1634
01:07:34,730 --> 01:07:31,920
it was your first time here

1635
01:07:37,190 --> 01:07:34,740
um I've been I've been before my first

1636
01:07:42,789 --> 01:07:37,200
time here yeah it's your first time not

1637
01:07:46,609 --> 01:07:44,750
so what goes through your head just

1638
01:07:47,750 --> 01:07:46,619
looking out at this great expense behind

1639
01:07:50,770 --> 01:07:47,760
you

1640
01:07:56,870 --> 01:07:50,780
how cuddly Dave Foley is

1641
01:08:01,130 --> 01:07:59,329
so in my eyes it's just this kind of

1642
01:08:02,990 --> 01:08:01,140
neat thing where there's so much

1643
01:08:05,210 --> 01:08:03,000
excitement about UFO so let's now let's

1644
01:08:07,010 --> 01:08:05,220
get to just this part right

1645
01:08:13,430 --> 01:08:07,020
I just

1646
01:08:16,430 --> 01:08:13,440
let's not let it be a bad thing so we we

1647
01:08:17,870 --> 01:08:16,440
tried it I tried to to create that

1648
01:08:20,030 --> 01:08:17,880
environment

1649
01:08:22,130 --> 01:08:20,040
I know you were just covering it as an

1650
01:08:26,630 --> 01:08:22,140
as a news reporter but we were worried

1651
01:08:30,110 --> 01:08:26,640
and there was a massive

1652
01:08:32,390 --> 01:08:30,120
Federal and law enforcement presence but

1653
01:08:34,669 --> 01:08:32,400
what I realized was it was the craziest

1654
01:08:37,490 --> 01:08:34,679
[\h__\h] ever you'd go up to the gate

1655
01:08:39,650 --> 01:08:37,500
compared to every other time we've gone

1656
01:08:41,570 --> 01:08:39,660
when you're being surveilled they don't

1657
01:08:44,090 --> 01:08:41,580
let you see anybody but the car last

1658
01:08:47,030 --> 01:08:44,100
time we went up to Area 51 they followed

1659
01:08:48,890 --> 01:08:47,040
us me you and Ernie Klein right

1660
01:08:50,749 --> 01:08:48,900
Ernie Klein's the the writer who wrote

1661
01:08:52,669 --> 01:08:50,759
Ready Player One

1662
01:08:54,829 --> 01:08:52,679
which the Steven Spielberg movie is

1663
01:08:56,510 --> 01:08:54,839
after this is George's friend for those

1664
01:08:58,490 --> 01:08:56,520
of you that don't know and he's a he's a

1665
01:09:00,650 --> 01:08:58,500
good dude we like Ernie and we took him

1666
01:09:02,749 --> 01:09:00,660
out to air 51 and the cars would they

1667
01:09:04,789 --> 01:09:02,759
followed us back last time just to kind

1668
01:09:06,709 --> 01:09:04,799
of say we see you guys I mean the

1669
01:09:08,990 --> 01:09:06,719
security interview 51 is already always

1670
01:09:11,150 --> 01:09:09,000
pretty strong you just don't always see

1671
01:09:14,150 --> 01:09:11,160
it there's cameras that ring many many

1672
01:09:16,729 --> 01:09:14,160
of the central access points and there

1673
01:09:18,349 --> 01:09:16,739
are Personnel that will camo dudes they

1674
01:09:19,970 --> 01:09:18,359
call them that would sit up there on a

1675
01:09:22,849 --> 01:09:19,980
Bronco on the hill when you get close to

1676
01:09:24,289 --> 01:09:22,859
the gate they have uh sensor systems on

1677
01:09:26,749 --> 01:09:24,299
the roads to let you know that they're

1678
01:09:28,669 --> 01:09:26,759
there but this time for this event it

1679
01:09:31,849 --> 01:09:28,679
was way over the top I mean they were

1680
01:09:34,189 --> 01:09:31,859
prepared for the worst of the worst if

1681
01:09:36,289 --> 01:09:34,199
in actuality the two million people

1682
01:09:38,570 --> 01:09:36,299
showed up and wanted to storm the base

1683
01:09:41,390 --> 01:09:38,580
they were ready for it in between Hico

1684
01:09:43,789 --> 01:09:41,400
and Rachel on the highway they had

1685
01:09:45,769 --> 01:09:43,799
created this law enforcement Camp they

1686
01:09:48,229 --> 01:09:45,779
had heavy equipment and armored

1687
01:09:50,090 --> 01:09:48,239
personnel carriers and I don't know how

1688
01:09:52,729 --> 01:09:50,100
many law enforcement from every agency

1689
01:09:55,490 --> 01:09:52,739
in Nevada state federal and then extra

1690
01:09:57,350 --> 01:09:55,500
military folks inside the base just in

1691
01:09:59,330 --> 01:09:57,360
case things got out of control okay

1692
01:10:01,850 --> 01:09:59,340
let's go into things that have have

1693
01:10:03,590 --> 01:10:01,860
really gone wrong out there in a second

1694
01:10:05,510 --> 01:10:03,600
I want to go into things that really got

1695
01:10:08,209 --> 01:10:05,520
wrong from the sensors that were dug up

1696
01:10:10,610 --> 01:10:08,219
all the way to our buddy York right but

1697
01:10:12,530 --> 01:10:10,620
but before that my perspective was

1698
01:10:14,510 --> 01:10:12,540
different George like when I went up to

1699
01:10:16,550 --> 01:10:14,520
the gate now I know because you and I

1700
01:10:18,650 --> 01:10:16,560
actually have knowledge of the inside

1701
01:10:22,610 --> 01:10:18,660
the gate there were extra measures put

1702
01:10:26,390 --> 01:10:22,620
up but it to me they did such a great

1703
01:10:28,189 --> 01:10:26,400
job on site it was like oh yeah come up

1704
01:10:30,830 --> 01:10:28,199
to the gate take photo you'll never see

1705
01:10:32,810 --> 01:10:30,840
that again never in your life and in

1706
01:10:35,570 --> 01:10:32,820
fact some of the

1707
01:10:38,030 --> 01:10:35,580
um both federal and state individuals

1708
01:10:39,290 --> 01:10:38,040
they were like oh hey let's let's take a

1709
01:10:41,810 --> 01:10:39,300
photo I'm like can I post it on social

1710
01:10:43,669 --> 01:10:41,820
they're like okay I never I never did

1711
01:10:45,649 --> 01:10:43,679
but they're like it was so cool it was

1712
01:10:47,990 --> 01:10:45,659
like a PR thing they're like come on up

1713
01:10:49,610 --> 01:10:48,000
everything's cool us today we're good

1714
01:10:51,709 --> 01:10:49,620
and honestly everybody felt like that

1715
01:10:54,110 --> 01:10:51,719
like I'm sh I know that there's those

1716
01:10:56,570 --> 01:10:54,120
people watching in the crowds that you

1717
01:10:58,490 --> 01:10:56,580
recognize some of them you know I know

1718
01:11:01,010 --> 01:10:58,500
and who talked with them I know that but

1719
01:11:03,770 --> 01:11:01,020
from the public standpoint it felt like

1720
01:11:07,070 --> 01:11:03,780
hey okay we're here and we're gonna

1721
01:11:09,229 --> 01:11:07,080
shake your hand just don't cross the

1722
01:11:10,610 --> 01:11:09,239
gate that was the only thing well I know

1723
01:11:12,169 --> 01:11:10,620
people have written that it was a

1724
01:11:14,209 --> 01:11:12,179
disaster it was a terrible

1725
01:11:16,070 --> 01:11:14,219
disappointment because two million

1726
01:11:18,229 --> 01:11:16,080
people didn't show up it was a great fun

1727
01:11:20,870 --> 01:11:18,239
a great time people that went out there

1728
01:11:22,910 --> 01:11:20,880
had a great time the crowd was a lot

1729
01:11:25,010 --> 01:11:22,920
smaller at the hiko part of it than

1730
01:11:27,110 --> 01:11:25,020
anybody expected but it was still a

1731
01:11:29,450 --> 01:11:27,120
great great fun and then there were

1732
01:11:31,550 --> 01:11:29,460
thousands of people who were over on the

1733
01:11:33,110 --> 01:11:31,560
Rachel side of it who were camped in the

1734
01:11:36,890 --> 01:11:33,120
desert I think they had a great time too

1735
01:11:40,010 --> 01:11:36,900
they're wearing goofy alien costumes I

1736
01:11:41,810 --> 01:11:40,020
think the larger message is that that it

1737
01:11:43,910 --> 01:11:41,820
touched the pulse of the public that

1738
01:11:45,950 --> 01:11:43,920
event I mean there it was an indication

1739
01:11:48,350 --> 01:11:45,960
that the people really are although they

1740
01:11:49,790 --> 01:11:48,360
were there to have fun they're also

1741
01:11:51,830 --> 01:11:49,800
there because they're interested in this

1742
01:11:53,870 --> 01:11:51,840
that they want transparency they want to

1743
01:11:56,270 --> 01:11:53,880
know what's going on on the UFO issue

1744
01:11:58,090 --> 01:11:56,280
and if it's out there in Area 51 which I

1745
01:12:01,130 --> 01:11:58,100
seriously doubt anymore

1746
01:12:03,770 --> 01:12:01,140
then it's time for somebody to fess up

1747
01:12:05,750 --> 01:12:03,780
about it yeah and and but you know but

1748
01:12:07,669 --> 01:12:05,760
here's the deal is like it was this kind

1749
01:12:10,310 --> 01:12:07,679
of cool but but I did notice I want to

1750
01:12:12,229 --> 01:12:10,320
really clearly state every single

1751
01:12:14,330 --> 01:12:12,239
article that wrote about it

1752
01:12:15,770 --> 01:12:14,340
even though it wasn't as big as like you

1753
01:12:17,990 --> 01:12:15,780
know the two million people and all that

1754
01:12:20,630 --> 01:12:18,000
stuff they diminished the number of

1755
01:12:21,530 --> 01:12:20,640
people like I was there I have the

1756
01:12:24,350 --> 01:12:21,540
footage

1757
01:12:27,410 --> 01:12:24,360
there were thousands and thousands of

1758
01:12:30,530 --> 01:12:27,420
people I don't fully understand why

1759
01:12:33,470 --> 01:12:30,540
um Publications would intentionally try

1760
01:12:35,750 --> 01:12:33,480
to diminish the the amount of people

1761
01:12:37,310 --> 01:12:35,760
that that came to attend because there

1762
01:12:39,110 --> 01:12:37,320
was a lot more that I actually thought

1763
01:12:41,870 --> 01:12:39,120
there was going to be and maybe I'm

1764
01:12:43,310 --> 01:12:41,880
being naive but independently all these

1765
01:12:45,590 --> 01:12:43,320
Publications were like ah there was

1766
01:12:48,229 --> 01:12:45,600
barely anybody there [\h__\h] not true

1767
01:12:49,490 --> 01:12:48,239
not true at all and that's in some of

1768
01:12:51,290 --> 01:12:49,500
the footage so why do why do you think

1769
01:12:54,130 --> 01:12:51,300
it comes with a territory for this topic

1770
01:12:56,990 --> 01:12:54,140
that journalists have been so used to

1771
01:12:59,209 --> 01:12:57,000
diminishing it and dismissing it and and

1772
01:13:00,950 --> 01:12:59,219
having derogatory comments about it it

1773
01:13:02,990 --> 01:13:00,960
goes with the territory so Stephen

1774
01:13:05,149 --> 01:13:03,000
roderick's Rolling Stone article about

1775
01:13:06,290 --> 01:13:05,159
UFOs I think it's like loving the alien

1776
01:13:07,910 --> 01:13:06,300
I don't remember the title was something

1777
01:13:09,229 --> 01:13:07,920
like that what did I think about it

1778
01:13:12,290 --> 01:13:09,239
that's what you asked me where I got all

1779
01:13:14,870 --> 01:13:12,300
fired up so what I thought about it was

1780
01:13:17,270 --> 01:13:14,880
was that it was really cool that

1781
01:13:20,990 --> 01:13:17,280
somebody of his stature would come in

1782
01:13:24,050 --> 01:13:21,000
and spend the time a deep dive into the

1783
01:13:25,550 --> 01:13:24,060
UFO things starting from zero to like

1784
01:13:26,930 --> 01:13:25,560
what's going on in the media at that

1785
01:13:30,649 --> 01:13:26,940
time

1786
01:13:32,209 --> 01:13:30,659
but he used me in that article and I

1787
01:13:34,669 --> 01:13:32,219
think he would admit it because it's

1788
01:13:38,110 --> 01:13:34,679
true is that he used me in that article

1789
01:13:41,390 --> 01:13:38,120
as a vehicle as almost a comedic

1790
01:13:43,130 --> 01:13:41,400
jester-like vehicle where you should

1791
01:13:46,070 --> 01:13:43,140
doubt everything I say because I do

1792
01:13:49,010 --> 01:13:46,080
things like theatrically open my freezer

1793
01:13:52,010 --> 01:13:49,020
now I opened my freezer every [\h__\h]

1794
01:13:54,050 --> 01:13:52,020
day and it's never theatrical but if you

1795
01:13:56,090 --> 01:13:54,060
want to say that you can say that

1796
01:13:57,649 --> 01:13:56,100
because maybe that's the way you see it

1797
01:13:59,330 --> 01:13:57,659
or maybe he's just saying I got a

1798
01:14:01,970 --> 01:13:59,340
Charming personality I'll take it that

1799
01:14:04,250 --> 01:14:01,980
way but my takeaway to be honest with

1800
01:14:07,970 --> 01:14:04,260
you and to be honest with everybody is

1801
01:14:11,450 --> 01:14:07,980
that it was an excellent article to be

1802
01:14:14,270 --> 01:14:11,460
covered on this topic and it was fun to

1803
01:14:17,149 --> 01:14:14,280
read like I had so much fun reading it

1804
01:14:19,189 --> 01:14:17,159
but I was used as a vehicle to try to

1805
01:14:21,890 --> 01:14:19,199
say hey I went and did mushrooms with

1806
01:14:22,550 --> 01:14:21,900
this guy or something like that you know

1807
01:14:25,070 --> 01:14:22,560
um

1808
01:14:28,130 --> 01:14:25,080
but I think the the end note

1809
01:14:29,930 --> 01:14:28,140
is that I'm really grateful so Stephen

1810
01:14:31,910 --> 01:14:29,940
if you're listening to this buddy I love

1811
01:14:34,130 --> 01:14:31,920
you I asked you before you went public

1812
01:14:35,090 --> 01:14:34,140
with this on a Twitter public Twitter I

1813
01:14:37,490 --> 01:14:35,100
said

1814
01:14:39,770 --> 01:14:37,500
friend or subject like am I a friend or

1815
01:14:41,870 --> 01:14:39,780
a subject and he wrote back friend you

1816
01:14:44,209 --> 01:14:41,880
know and I hope that's true and I think

1817
01:14:46,790 --> 01:14:44,219
he could do a lot for this subject if he

1818
01:14:49,669 --> 01:14:46,800
just spent his mental energy on it

1819
01:14:51,770 --> 01:14:49,679
because we need voices like his so the

1820
01:14:53,270 --> 01:14:51,780
article was great I just didn't like the

1821
01:14:56,630 --> 01:14:53,280
fact that everything I said that was

1822
01:14:59,390 --> 01:14:56,640
fact was portrayed as like a maybe about

1823
01:15:01,370 --> 01:14:59,400
my own personal life so right when it

1824
01:15:04,010 --> 01:15:01,380
was going public I went to the editor

1825
01:15:05,390 --> 01:15:04,020
and gave them every piece of proof they

1826
01:15:07,130 --> 01:15:05,400
need to say what I was saying was true

1827
01:15:10,189 --> 01:15:07,140
whether I opened the the fridge

1828
01:15:12,709 --> 01:15:10,199
theatrically or not in his eyes right so

1829
01:15:16,490 --> 01:15:12,719
so anyway that's what I think about it I

1830
01:15:17,630 --> 01:15:16,500
really hope other massive journalists

1831
01:15:20,270 --> 01:15:17,640
like him

1832
01:15:22,250 --> 01:15:20,280
Focus long form on this because man

1833
01:15:25,189 --> 01:15:22,260
you've got to get in it well he is a

1834
01:15:27,649 --> 01:15:25,199
great writer and the the article was

1835
01:15:29,570 --> 01:15:27,659
it's a long piece and it was really well

1836
01:15:33,410 --> 01:15:29,580
written some great stuff in there funny

1837
01:15:35,390 --> 01:15:33,420
observations uh and he treated me pretty

1838
01:15:37,310 --> 01:15:35,400
well he he called me I think the John

1839
01:15:38,330 --> 01:15:37,320
the Baptist of the UFO movement or

1840
01:15:40,370 --> 01:15:38,340
something like that which I didn't

1841
01:15:42,350 --> 01:15:40,380
understand you know so he treated me

1842
01:15:44,510 --> 01:15:42,360
well I have no complaint about it the

1843
01:15:46,729 --> 01:15:44,520
complaint I have is that and I called

1844
01:15:47,990 --> 01:15:46,739
them after after it came out I just said

1845
01:15:49,850 --> 01:15:48,000
I just thought you missed a great

1846
01:15:51,830 --> 01:15:49,860
opportunity there's some funny stuff in

1847
01:15:53,689 --> 01:15:51,840
there and I know he doesn't want to be

1848
01:15:55,010 --> 01:15:53,699
the Hunter S Thompson the new Hunter S

1849
01:15:57,229 --> 01:15:55,020
Thompson even though he writes for

1850
01:15:59,570 --> 01:15:57,239
Rolling Stone and the style was very

1851
01:16:02,330 --> 01:15:59,580
similar to it and and he sort of

1852
01:16:04,490 --> 01:16:02,340
embraced the whole Enviro the uh event

1853
01:16:06,290 --> 01:16:04,500
in ways that Hunter Thompson might came

1854
01:16:07,729 --> 01:16:06,300
to my house and saw my wife which is

1855
01:16:09,830 --> 01:16:07,739
called the yeti because no one sees her

1856
01:16:11,270 --> 01:16:09,840
on mushrooms I mean it's like he did

1857
01:16:13,430 --> 01:16:11,280
embrace it we listened to music all

1858
01:16:15,110 --> 01:16:13,440
night but if you ask him about Hunter S

1859
01:16:17,030 --> 01:16:15,120
Thompson he says no no I'm not Honduras

1860
01:16:20,149 --> 01:16:17,040
Thompson Hunter S Thompson made stuff up

1861
01:16:22,610 --> 01:16:20,159
I'm not in the style the writing style

1862
01:16:24,649 --> 01:16:22,620
was similar and it's a great article and

1863
01:16:27,290 --> 01:16:24,659
he did do some work he went and met Lou

1864
01:16:29,450 --> 01:16:27,300
Elizondo he talked to Tom Delong he he

1865
01:16:32,330 --> 01:16:29,460
did some work beyond the event itself to

1866
01:16:34,010 --> 01:16:32,340
have some context but he missed a great

1867
01:16:36,649 --> 01:16:34,020
opportunity that's what I told him is

1868
01:16:39,410 --> 01:16:36,659
that uh he starts the article early in

1869
01:16:41,209 --> 01:16:39,420
by talking to Seth shostak this

1870
01:16:43,910 --> 01:16:41,219
astronomer who works with the seti

1871
01:16:46,310 --> 01:16:43,920
program and Seth explains that really

1872
01:16:48,110 --> 01:16:46,320
these misguided UFO people they're

1873
01:16:50,209 --> 01:16:48,120
looking for some meeting in their life

1874
01:16:53,030 --> 01:16:50,219
and many of them who moved away from

1875
01:16:55,790 --> 01:16:53,040
religion or Jesus and and Santa Claus

1876
01:16:58,250 --> 01:16:55,800
and so they they need this to fill that

1877
01:17:00,530 --> 01:16:58,260
gap which is just Preposterous it's just

1878
01:17:03,950 --> 01:17:00,540
not true that same argument has been

1879
01:17:06,350 --> 01:17:03,960
made by journalists lazy journalists for

1880
01:17:08,270 --> 01:17:06,360
75 years and it's not true people are

1881
01:17:10,130 --> 01:17:08,280
interested in UFOs because they see them

1882
01:17:12,830 --> 01:17:10,140
because their government sees them

1883
01:17:15,890 --> 01:17:12,840
because they're our fighter pilots and

1884
01:17:17,510 --> 01:17:15,900
and ships and radar operators see them

1885
01:17:19,430 --> 01:17:17,520
they're interested in it because it's a

1886
01:17:22,070 --> 01:17:19,440
genuine mystery not because they'd want

1887
01:17:25,370 --> 01:17:22,080
to believe in Santa Claus or the Easter

1888
01:17:26,510 --> 01:17:25,380
Bunny or Jesus that kind of comment by

1889
01:17:29,270 --> 01:17:26,520
somebody who's supposed to be a

1890
01:17:32,689 --> 01:17:29,280
scientifically minded person tells more

1891
01:17:35,149 --> 01:17:32,699
about that person than it does the UFO

1892
01:17:36,830 --> 01:17:35,159
mystery so I love it when people say

1893
01:17:38,689 --> 01:17:36,840
[\h__\h] like that because then the public

1894
01:17:40,370 --> 01:17:38,699
can see someone like this guy you're

1895
01:17:44,390 --> 01:17:40,380
talking about whatever his name is he he

1896
01:17:46,729 --> 01:17:44,400
like freaking tells the public who he is

1897
01:17:48,649 --> 01:17:46,739
that's his pain right there that's his

1898
01:17:52,250 --> 01:17:48,659
weirdness because it's not [\h__\h] true

1899
01:17:54,290 --> 01:17:52,260
Seth Shaw stack is has worked for 25 30

1900
01:17:56,450 --> 01:17:54,300
years with seti the search for

1901
01:17:58,189 --> 01:17:56,460
extraterrestrial intelligence they

1902
01:18:00,050 --> 01:17:58,199
believe that there's life out there and

1903
01:18:02,570 --> 01:18:00,060
we should look for it by using

1904
01:18:03,890 --> 01:18:02,580
telescopes to find evidence but they

1905
01:18:06,290 --> 01:18:03,900
sure as hell don't want to say that

1906
01:18:08,810 --> 01:18:06,300
there's any evidence of life being here

1907
01:18:10,430 --> 01:18:08,820
E.T Life coming here or non-human

1908
01:18:12,830 --> 01:18:10,440
Intelligence being here because that

1909
01:18:14,870 --> 01:18:12,840
puts them out of work if if there's

1910
01:18:17,330 --> 01:18:14,880
evidence that something is visiting us

1911
01:18:19,790 --> 01:18:17,340
here you don't really need telescopes to

1912
01:18:21,649 --> 01:18:19,800
look way way out there I mean that that

1913
01:18:24,590 --> 01:18:21,659
just seems to me like a form of of

1914
01:18:27,890 --> 01:18:24,600
hubris as a site if I was a scientist

1915
01:18:29,750 --> 01:18:27,900
how could I discount some some Society

1916
01:18:31,550 --> 01:18:29,760
more intelligent and more advanced

1917
01:18:34,189 --> 01:18:31,560
technologically than me and that just

1918
01:18:36,470 --> 01:18:34,199
feels like Beyond hubris that feels like

1919
01:18:38,510 --> 01:18:36,480
dude maybe that guy got abducted well be

1920
01:18:40,610 --> 01:18:38,520
interesting to see what evidence said he

1921
01:18:42,169 --> 01:18:40,620
has come up with that there's life out

1922
01:18:44,689 --> 01:18:42,179
there that there's intelligent life on

1923
01:18:46,370 --> 01:18:44,699
other planets because in the I think

1924
01:18:50,630 --> 01:18:46,380
it's probably more than 30 years that's

1925
01:18:52,729 --> 01:18:50,640
existed they've got squat okay so I want

1926
01:18:54,470 --> 01:18:52,739
to now get back towards how this storm

1927
01:18:58,130 --> 01:18:54,480
thing happened but first I want to say

1928
01:18:59,990 --> 01:18:58,140
look I have been really like at this

1929
01:19:02,390 --> 01:19:00,000
thing which by the way went off great

1930
01:19:05,689 --> 01:19:02,400
there there were some weird things like

1931
01:19:07,149 --> 01:19:05,699
I was approached by a group of uh you

1932
01:19:10,189 --> 01:19:07,159
know clearly

1933
01:19:13,729 --> 01:19:10,199
menacing individuals who appeared to me

1934
01:19:16,490 --> 01:19:13,739
to be from an agency that we're trying

1935
01:19:17,990 --> 01:19:16,500
to per see if I would say or provoke me

1936
01:19:20,270 --> 01:19:18,000
into creating

1937
01:19:22,490 --> 01:19:20,280
um a riot like as if when I got on stage

1938
01:19:24,890 --> 01:19:22,500
that night with the microphone that I

1939
01:19:27,830 --> 01:19:24,900
would have incited people they they came

1940
01:19:29,630 --> 01:19:27,840
at me it was so [\h__\h] um you know when

1941
01:19:32,149 --> 01:19:29,640
that you get that feeling in your gut

1942
01:19:34,010 --> 01:19:32,159
and you're like oh this is dangerous

1943
01:19:35,810 --> 01:19:34,020
so I came in right and told you right

1944
01:19:37,970 --> 01:19:35,820
away and I got them booted from the from

1945
01:19:40,130 --> 01:19:37,980
the place they had built a campfire got

1946
01:19:43,490 --> 01:19:40,140
them booted they were there

1947
01:19:45,110 --> 01:19:43,500
and they told me for the violence that's

1948
01:19:47,390 --> 01:19:45,120
what they said now I think these guys

1949
01:19:50,030 --> 01:19:47,400
were plants because the way that they

1950
01:19:51,709 --> 01:19:50,040
were I I've seen it every day of my life

1951
01:19:53,689 --> 01:19:51,719
you know people that work in these

1952
01:19:55,729 --> 01:19:53,699
capacities but I am just publicly

1953
01:19:59,450 --> 01:19:55,739
stating for the first time I was

1954
01:20:03,110 --> 01:19:59,460
approached by three men who who told me

1955
01:20:05,030 --> 01:20:03,120
their goal was to incite violence and

1956
01:20:07,430 --> 01:20:05,040
they were trying to enroll me in that

1957
01:20:08,990 --> 01:20:07,440
and it creeped the [\h__\h] out of me and I

1958
01:20:11,030 --> 01:20:09,000
came and told you immediately you told

1959
01:20:12,830 --> 01:20:11,040
George and they were evacuated from the

1960
01:20:14,810 --> 01:20:12,840
location that

1961
01:20:16,669 --> 01:20:14,820
um freaked me out and then you also in

1962
01:20:17,990 --> 01:20:16,679
the audience when Oakenfold was playing

1963
01:20:20,390 --> 01:20:18,000
and everybody was dancing with like

1964
01:20:23,630 --> 01:20:20,400
laser beams right I have cool photos and

1965
01:20:25,850 --> 01:20:23,640
video from that you said to me

1966
01:20:28,910 --> 01:20:25,860
that there were people in the audience

1967
01:20:30,470 --> 01:20:28,920
that you had a long-standing friendship

1968
01:20:32,630 --> 01:20:30,480
or relationship with within federal

1969
01:20:36,229 --> 01:20:32,640
agencies like you recognized faces FBI

1970
01:20:38,689 --> 01:20:36,239
okay so why were they there I asked him

1971
01:20:40,610 --> 01:20:38,699
are you here to are you working oh no

1972
01:20:42,649 --> 01:20:40,620
we're just here to have fun they had a

1973
01:20:44,930 --> 01:20:42,659
beer in their hands but I didn't see

1974
01:20:46,790 --> 01:20:44,940
them actually drinking it I saw them I

1975
01:20:48,470 --> 01:20:46,800
think they were there to keep an eye on

1976
01:20:50,450 --> 01:20:48,480
things to see if the steaks didn't get

1977
01:20:52,189 --> 01:20:50,460
out of hand but they were also enjoying

1978
01:20:53,990 --> 01:20:52,199
themselves they got that they got a hell

1979
01:20:56,510 --> 01:20:54,000
of a had a hell of a good time out of it

1980
01:20:59,390 --> 01:20:56,520
and uh I hope they learned something

1981
01:21:01,550 --> 01:20:59,400
about the the crowd that follows this

1982
01:21:04,130 --> 01:21:01,560
stuff about the subject matter and about

1983
01:21:05,630 --> 01:21:04,140
how passionate people feel and and so on

1984
01:21:07,310 --> 01:21:05,640
that I want to kind of highlight a

1985
01:21:10,250 --> 01:21:07,320
couple artists that did some really cool

1986
01:21:12,890 --> 01:21:10,260
stuff the other artist that blew me away

1987
01:21:14,870 --> 01:21:12,900
right so after my film comes out a lot

1988
01:21:17,630 --> 01:21:14,880
of these emails come in and this one

1989
01:21:21,050 --> 01:21:17,640
artist uh I'm gonna pronounce things

1990
01:21:25,310 --> 01:21:21,060
wrong sawana I believe the the title of

1991
01:21:29,149 --> 01:21:25,320
the song is Black Hole uh so Bob Lazar

1992
01:21:32,870 --> 01:21:29,159
or black hole sawana it was the coolest

1993
01:21:34,850 --> 01:21:32,880
wrap of uh taking Clips out from the

1994
01:21:37,010 --> 01:21:34,860
movie in your original interviews and

1995
01:21:41,209 --> 01:21:37,020
and playing them in a song the song was

1996
01:21:44,570 --> 01:21:41,219
so cool and and this female singer or

1997
01:21:45,470 --> 01:21:44,580
artist she was in a foreign country at

1998
01:21:47,870 --> 01:21:45,480
the time

1999
01:21:49,550 --> 01:21:47,880
um I think it was Indonesia or it was

2000
01:21:52,010 --> 01:21:49,560
I'll probably get around somewhere

2001
01:21:54,229 --> 01:21:52,020
overseas and I said look can you just

2002
01:21:57,709 --> 01:21:54,239
get back to the US of a where she's from

2003
01:22:00,410 --> 01:21:57,719
and I'm like we got a stage you play

2004
01:22:02,689 --> 01:22:00,420
your song you know this Bob Lazar song

2005
01:22:04,790 --> 01:22:02,699
called black hole and what why I was so

2006
01:22:07,070 --> 01:22:04,800
and she had a partner another guy that

2007
01:22:08,270 --> 01:22:07,080
was in it that was just so great and the

2008
01:22:10,910 --> 01:22:08,280
reason I wanted him to play it because

2009
01:22:14,149 --> 01:22:10,920
they got everything right if you listen

2010
01:22:16,070 --> 01:22:14,159
to the lyrics of this song in 1989 I

2011
01:22:18,050 --> 01:22:16,080
mean it starts off crazy it starts off

2012
01:22:20,750 --> 01:22:18,060
with what happened

2013
01:22:22,490 --> 01:22:20,760
okay I'm the whole thing yeah I'm gonna

2014
01:22:25,620 --> 01:22:22,500
play the whole song and video that I

2015
01:22:30,690 --> 01:22:25,630
made right here bam

2016
01:23:35,050 --> 01:22:32,630
[Music]

2017
01:23:40,550 --> 01:23:38,149
well there are several uh actually nine

2018
01:23:42,470 --> 01:23:40,560
flying saucers flying discs of

2019
01:23:44,750 --> 01:23:42,480
extraterrestrial origin they're being

2020
01:23:47,030 --> 01:23:44,760
test flown and uh basically just

2021
01:23:48,709 --> 01:23:47,040
analyzed where did we get these saucers

2022
01:23:50,630 --> 01:23:48,719
uh how did they come into the hands of

2023
01:23:52,490 --> 01:23:50,640
the government I haven't the slightest

2024
01:23:55,070 --> 01:23:52,500
idea and the information is very

2025
01:23:57,169 --> 01:23:55,080
compartmentalized

2026
01:23:59,149 --> 01:23:57,179
stuck on taploids I don't know what you

2027
01:24:01,189 --> 01:23:59,159
heard but Bob bizarre's not telling a

2028
01:24:03,530 --> 01:24:01,199
lot top secret faces with flying sauces

2029
01:24:05,330 --> 01:24:03,540
fly the government won't be forthcoming

2030
01:24:06,350 --> 01:24:05,340
he hasn't changed the story for 30 years

2031
01:24:08,510 --> 01:24:06,360
running

2032
01:24:11,330 --> 01:24:08,520
et species advanced technology they

2033
01:24:13,310 --> 01:24:11,340
erase his identity MIT feel propulsion

2034
01:24:15,770 --> 01:24:13,320
man it's awesome if they gotta cry they

2035
01:24:17,630 --> 01:24:15,780
can really ban gravity back in 89 Bob

2036
01:24:19,010 --> 01:24:17,640
had a particle accelerator hoping he

2037
01:24:21,470 --> 01:24:19,020
don't wake up the neighbors had to walk

2038
01:24:23,570 --> 01:24:21,480
away from S4 and take a pay cut pulling

2039
01:24:25,010 --> 01:24:23,580
up in that little red Corvette lazar's

2040
01:24:26,630 --> 01:24:25,020
talking fine that's a document it's a

2041
01:24:28,370 --> 01:24:26,640
flight test with suspicion they said

2042
01:24:30,110 --> 01:24:28,380
it's too much like science fiction Well

2043
01:24:31,910 --> 01:24:30,120
turns out that's wishful thinking this

2044
01:24:33,709 --> 01:24:31,920
guy took his friends out to Papa's Lake

2045
01:24:35,450 --> 01:24:33,719
saw some sauces and caught that [\h__\h] on

2046
01:24:37,370 --> 01:24:35,460
tape you wanna sit here and say that

2047
01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:37,380
Lazar is fake instead let's get real

2048
01:24:43,990 --> 01:24:40,130
cause life is unexplained

2049
01:24:48,020 --> 01:24:44,000
[Music]

2050
01:25:01,149 --> 01:24:48,030
is not telling a lie

2051
01:25:03,410 --> 01:25:01,159
[Music]

2052
01:25:05,990 --> 01:25:03,420
bring the light are you ready for

2053
01:25:07,420 --> 01:25:06,000
disclosure y'all we this close to

2054
01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:07,430
disclosure y'all

2055
01:25:12,350 --> 01:25:09,170
[Music]

2056
01:25:13,850 --> 01:25:12,360
[Applause]

2057
01:25:15,290 --> 01:25:13,860
okay now

2058
01:25:16,490 --> 01:25:15,300
check it out

2059
01:25:20,930 --> 01:25:16,500
so

2060
01:25:22,130 --> 01:25:20,940
did this and I put a video of the guy in

2061
01:25:24,470 --> 01:25:22,140
because he couldn't come back to the US

2062
01:25:26,750 --> 01:25:24,480
it was just so neat to me to see these

2063
01:25:29,209 --> 01:25:26,760
artists doing stuff and getting it right

2064
01:25:32,570 --> 01:25:29,219
getting it right what Bob reported what

2065
01:25:34,970 --> 01:25:32,580
you reported I mean it was so cool but I

2066
01:25:36,770 --> 01:25:34,980
do want to touch upon this idea that

2067
01:25:38,630 --> 01:25:36,780
there has not always been a great

2068
01:25:41,149 --> 01:25:38,640
relationship when it comes to Area 51

2069
01:25:43,729 --> 01:25:41,159
and journalists and when it comes to

2070
01:25:45,169 --> 01:25:43,739
Area 51 and the surrounding area and the

2071
01:25:46,850 --> 01:25:45,179
first thing I want you to tell us about

2072
01:25:48,770 --> 01:25:46,860
is

2073
01:25:50,630 --> 01:25:48,780
from what I understand you did a news

2074
01:25:52,729 --> 01:25:50,640
report about a guy that found sensors on

2075
01:25:54,530 --> 01:25:52,739
public land can you tell us that story

2076
01:25:55,970 --> 01:25:54,540
first and then I want to talk about yorg

2077
01:25:58,610 --> 01:25:55,980
sure

2078
01:26:03,110 --> 01:25:58,620
his name was Chuck Clark he had written

2079
01:26:05,209 --> 01:26:03,120
sort of a a a visitor's guide to Area 51

2080
01:26:07,070 --> 01:26:05,219
with some pretty good advice on what to

2081
01:26:09,229 --> 01:26:07,080
do what not to do and how to prepare for

2082
01:26:11,390 --> 01:26:09,239
a trip out there he spent a lot of his

2083
01:26:14,149 --> 01:26:11,400
time at the little alien I think he

2084
01:26:16,610 --> 01:26:14,159
lived in in a trailer right next to the

2085
01:26:18,950 --> 01:26:16,620
little alien for a number of years and

2086
01:26:21,290 --> 01:26:18,960
he would be the unofficial expert if

2087
01:26:23,390 --> 01:26:21,300
people came to town and had questions he

2088
01:26:26,570 --> 01:26:23,400
he would help him out but Chuck was also

2089
01:26:28,490 --> 01:26:26,580
a bit of a government Watchdog and he he

2090
01:26:31,430 --> 01:26:28,500
admireds the folks that worked out of

2091
01:26:33,229 --> 01:26:31,440
dairy 51 but he was I think upset when

2092
01:26:35,990 --> 01:26:33,239
he learned that there were these sensors

2093
01:26:38,270 --> 01:26:36,000
out on public land so you know even if

2094
01:26:40,610 --> 01:26:38,280
you get up to the very edge of Area 51

2095
01:26:42,649 --> 01:26:40,620
you're still 12 15 miles from the base

2096
01:26:45,290 --> 01:26:42,659
itself and you can't get in there

2097
01:26:47,810 --> 01:26:45,300
there's no way but on the public lands

2098
01:26:49,750 --> 01:26:47,820
leading up to it for miles outside on

2099
01:26:52,610 --> 01:26:49,760
BLM land that is available to everyone

2100
01:26:54,410 --> 01:26:52,620
they've planted these sensors that will

2101
01:26:57,430 --> 01:26:54,420
alert them when someone's on the road

2102
01:27:01,790 --> 01:26:57,440
and so Chuck found a way to dig them up

2103
01:27:05,149 --> 01:27:01,800
to a isolate and identify him and uh it

2104
01:27:09,290 --> 01:27:05,159
he had a he'd built a little scanner in

2105
01:27:11,810 --> 01:27:09,300
his car that would beep when there was

2106
01:27:13,490 --> 01:27:11,820
one real nearby so he called me up and

2107
01:27:15,709 --> 01:27:13,500
said hey come on out here I've got to

2108
01:27:18,530 --> 01:27:15,719
show you this so Matt Adams and I went

2109
01:27:20,930 --> 01:27:18,540
out Matt my photographer and got in the

2110
01:27:22,850 --> 01:27:20,940
car with Chuck and drove around and we

2111
01:27:25,070 --> 01:27:22,860
found like four or five of them oh that

2112
01:27:27,290 --> 01:27:25,080
shout out shout out to Matt Adams Matt

2113
01:27:28,970 --> 01:27:27,300
Adams has been working side by side with

2114
01:27:31,010 --> 01:27:28,980
George not probably been to Skinwalker

2115
01:27:33,229 --> 01:27:31,020
Ranch more than anybody but George and

2116
01:27:35,750 --> 01:27:33,239
the nid's team and Matt Adams has been

2117
01:27:38,090 --> 01:27:35,760
your your tell us who Matt Adams is that

2118
01:27:41,629 --> 01:27:38,100
is the chief photographer for klas TV

2119
01:27:43,790 --> 01:27:41,639
he's worked with me on the i-team for

2120
01:27:46,250 --> 01:27:43,800
more than 20 years now all of the

2121
01:27:49,550 --> 01:27:46,260
adventures we've had at Area 51 at

2122
01:27:52,490 --> 01:27:49,560
Skinwalker Ranch we had our encounters

2123
01:27:54,290 --> 01:27:52,500
with law enforcement we've chased down

2124
01:27:56,390 --> 01:27:54,300
terrorists we've done a lot of stories

2125
01:27:58,610 --> 01:27:56,400
together won a lot of awards he's a

2126
01:28:01,129 --> 01:27:58,620
Fearless guy and a very talented man and

2127
01:28:03,709 --> 01:28:01,139
he was on Along on this on this

2128
01:28:06,950 --> 01:28:03,719
assignment and and he's your CIA Handler

2129
01:28:09,830 --> 01:28:06,960
yeah that's true okay continue so we go

2130
01:28:12,350 --> 01:28:09,840
out with Chuck he his uh little scanner

2131
01:28:14,629 --> 01:28:12,360
is beeping we find these things that are

2132
01:28:16,669 --> 01:28:14,639
hidden in under bushes are you filming

2133
01:28:18,530 --> 01:28:16,679
it yeah we recorded the whole thing Matt

2134
01:28:20,750 --> 01:28:18,540
shot the whole thing he gets a little

2135
01:28:22,430 --> 01:28:20,760
brush out and brushes off the dirt and

2136
01:28:24,950 --> 01:28:22,440
shows us where they what these things

2137
01:28:27,590 --> 01:28:24,960
are did not disturb any of them at least

2138
01:28:29,209 --> 01:28:27,600
not while I was there and then we put

2139
01:28:31,430 --> 01:28:29,219
them back you know he just covers them

2140
01:28:33,950 --> 01:28:31,440
back up again and and we go back and do

2141
01:28:37,310 --> 01:28:33,960
a story and I get I get a call from

2142
01:28:39,169 --> 01:28:37,320
federal law enforcement that said what

2143
01:28:41,330 --> 01:28:39,179
were you doing out there so well I'm

2144
01:28:43,189 --> 01:28:41,340
just I'm on public land I'm looking at

2145
01:28:45,110 --> 01:28:43,199
these devices that are on public land

2146
01:28:47,209 --> 01:28:45,120
and we're gonna we're putting a story

2147
01:28:50,270 --> 01:28:47,219
together on it you shouldn't have done

2148
01:28:52,490 --> 01:28:50,280
that and it's it's kind of ominous the

2149
01:28:54,950 --> 01:28:52,500
warning that we got but the next day

2150
01:28:57,890 --> 01:28:54,960
The Joint terrorism task force goes

2151
01:29:01,129 --> 01:28:57,900
blasting into Rachel kicked in the door

2152
01:29:03,590 --> 01:29:01,139
of Chuck Chuck's trailer uh seized all

2153
01:29:05,209 --> 01:29:03,600
of his computers all of his cameras all

2154
01:29:07,310 --> 01:29:05,219
of his hard drives all of his

2155
01:29:10,430 --> 01:29:07,320
photographs took it all took everything

2156
01:29:11,930 --> 01:29:10,440
away and Chuck was in Colorado at the

2157
01:29:13,729 --> 01:29:11,940
time he didn't know this was going on he

2158
01:29:17,090 --> 01:29:13,739
found out a little bit later but he

2159
01:29:20,290 --> 01:29:17,100
never got that equipment back and he was

2160
01:29:22,669 --> 01:29:20,300
uh he had the threat of federal charges

2161
01:29:25,610 --> 01:29:22,679
over his head for I think the next two

2162
01:29:27,470 --> 01:29:25,620
years the allegation was he destroyed

2163
01:29:29,169 --> 01:29:27,480
government property by messing with

2164
01:29:32,930 --> 01:29:29,179
these things that were out on public

2165
01:29:34,550 --> 01:29:32,940
land right okay FBI agents have

2166
01:29:36,350 --> 01:29:34,560
confirmed that a search warrant was

2167
01:29:38,990 --> 01:29:36,360
served last night on the home of a

2168
01:29:40,970 --> 01:29:39,000
self-described military Watchdog in the

2169
01:29:44,030 --> 01:29:40,980
Tiny Town of Rachel near the mysterious

2170
01:29:46,010 --> 01:29:44,040
Area 51 military base it's an exclusive

2171
01:29:47,870 --> 01:29:46,020
story you will only see here we've

2172
01:29:49,790 --> 01:29:47,880
learned this action was initiated by The

2173
01:29:51,890 --> 01:29:49,800
Joint terrorism task force the search

2174
01:29:53,810 --> 01:29:51,900
warrant remained sealed and the FBI

2175
01:29:55,669 --> 01:29:53,820
won't say what overseas from the home of

2176
01:29:57,350 --> 01:29:55,679
Rachel resident Chuck Clark we believe

2177
01:29:59,510 --> 01:29:57,360
the action was taken because Chuck Clark

2178
01:30:01,430 --> 01:29:59,520
escorted the i-team on a tour of the

2179
01:30:03,169 --> 01:30:01,440
roads surrounding the base during the

2180
01:30:05,390 --> 01:30:03,179
visit he showed us the location of

2181
01:30:07,129 --> 01:30:05,400
military sensors hidden on public land

2182
01:30:12,830 --> 01:30:07,139
here's our story

2183
01:30:14,870 --> 01:30:12,840
I found 31 or 32 of them so far retired

2184
01:30:17,149 --> 01:30:14,880
astronomer and Desert Rat Chuck Clark

2185
01:30:18,890 --> 01:30:17,159
has a new hobby he's proud the hills and

2186
01:30:20,930 --> 01:30:18,900
deserts of Lincoln County for several

2187
01:30:23,090 --> 01:30:20,940
years now has photographed exotic

2188
01:30:25,490 --> 01:30:23,100
aircraft in the skies and keeps an eye

2189
01:30:27,470 --> 01:30:25,500
on the top secret base known as Area 51

2190
01:30:29,629 --> 01:30:27,480
he's even written a book about the place

2191
01:30:31,669 --> 01:30:29,639
over the past few months he's discovered

2192
01:30:34,010 --> 01:30:31,679
the military has been installing secret

2193
01:30:36,590 --> 01:30:34,020
sensors on public lands surrounding the

2194
01:30:38,330 --> 01:30:36,600
base using a frequency counter he can

2195
01:30:40,129 --> 01:30:38,340
tell when his vehicle has tripped the

2196
01:30:42,229 --> 01:30:40,139
sensor when that happens he looks for

2197
01:30:44,930 --> 01:30:42,239
the hard to spot wire atop the device

2198
01:30:47,149 --> 01:30:44,940
this is our sensor right here

2199
01:30:48,830 --> 01:30:47,159
then he digs them up takes pictures and

2200
01:30:51,229 --> 01:30:48,840
puts them back there's your transmitter

2201
01:30:54,830 --> 01:30:51,239
right there

2202
01:30:57,709 --> 01:30:54,840
and we'll come around here

2203
01:30:59,090 --> 01:30:57,719
and right here will be the time delay

2204
01:31:01,310 --> 01:30:59,100
unit

2205
01:31:03,530 --> 01:31:01,320
and you'll see it's clearly marked U.S

2206
01:31:05,689 --> 01:31:03,540
government property Clark isn't a

2207
01:31:07,729 --> 01:31:05,699
terrorist or spy but is angered that

2208
01:31:10,370 --> 01:31:07,739
hikers four-wheelers or photographers

2209
01:31:12,530 --> 01:31:10,380
anyone who uses the backcountry is being

2210
01:31:15,050 --> 01:31:12,540
monitored by the military on public land

2211
01:31:16,729 --> 01:31:15,060
miles from the boundary of the base a

2212
01:31:19,370 --> 01:31:16,739
boundary which is clearly marked by

2213
01:31:22,310 --> 01:31:19,380
ominous signs it's a little Overkill in

2214
01:31:24,290 --> 01:31:22,320
my opinion they have a about a 25 mile

2215
01:31:26,450 --> 01:31:24,300
buffer zone out here and it's all

2216
01:31:27,790 --> 01:31:26,460
terrain like this it gets rougher as you

2217
01:31:31,010 --> 01:31:27,800
go

2218
01:31:33,169 --> 01:31:31,020
uh why they have to put stuff outside

2219
01:31:35,689 --> 01:31:33,179
the line and really it escapes me during

2220
01:31:37,850 --> 01:31:35,699
the i-team's visit last week two sensors

2221
01:31:39,590 --> 01:31:37,860
were located and base security wrote

2222
01:31:42,229 --> 01:31:39,600
down the plate numbers of our vehicles

2223
01:31:44,870 --> 01:31:42,239
we returned five days ago and drove to

2224
01:31:47,510 --> 01:31:44,880
the rear entrance of area 51. three days

2225
01:31:49,189 --> 01:31:47,520
after our visit FBI agents working with

2226
01:31:51,770 --> 01:31:49,199
Air Force intelligence and the joint

2227
01:31:54,530 --> 01:31:51,780
terrorism task force raided Clark's home

2228
01:31:56,930 --> 01:31:54,540
and Rachel seized photos records and his

2229
01:31:59,330 --> 01:31:56,940
computer is it legal for anyone to touch

2230
01:32:01,610 --> 01:31:59,340
military sensors hidden on public land

2231
01:32:03,229 --> 01:32:01,620
the government doesn't think so although

2232
01:32:05,930 --> 01:32:03,239
Clark hasn't been charged with anything

2233
01:32:08,750 --> 01:32:05,940
is the military trying to silence this

2234
01:32:11,330 --> 01:32:08,760
Outback gadfly sort of paranoid about

2235
01:32:13,189 --> 01:32:11,340
this location and I don't see why we

2236
01:32:15,110 --> 01:32:13,199
asked the BLM if it's legal for the

2237
01:32:16,729 --> 01:32:15,120
military to put sensing devices out on

2238
01:32:18,649 --> 01:32:16,739
public land but a spokesman couldn't

2239
01:32:20,629 --> 01:32:18,659
answer our question law enforcement

2240
01:32:22,970 --> 01:32:20,639
sources say that by handling the sensors

2241
01:32:24,770 --> 01:32:22,980
the devices become disabled so it

2242
01:32:27,050 --> 01:32:24,780
amounts to production of government

2243
01:32:28,729 --> 01:32:27,060
property as we mentioned Clark has not

2244
01:32:30,290 --> 01:32:28,739
been charged he was out of the state

2245
01:32:31,910 --> 01:32:30,300
when the warrant was served our

2246
01:32:33,770 --> 01:32:31,920
investigation of the issues involved

2247
01:32:35,570 --> 01:32:33,780
will continue and we should emphasize

2248
01:32:37,910 --> 01:32:35,580
the involvement of the terrorism task

2249
01:32:39,890 --> 01:32:37,920
force does not mean that terrorism in a

2250
01:32:41,689 --> 01:32:39,900
classic sense is involved it's just that

2251
01:32:44,209 --> 01:32:41,699
these kinds of matters fall under the

2252
01:32:46,189 --> 01:32:44,219
task force purview so

2253
01:32:49,790 --> 01:32:46,199
um it was enough of an intimidation

2254
01:32:53,750 --> 01:32:49,800
tactic that Chuck shut down his home in

2255
01:32:56,030 --> 01:32:53,760
Rachel shut down his uh his Watchdog

2256
01:32:58,010 --> 01:32:56,040
activities moved out of the state and

2257
01:33:00,470 --> 01:32:58,020
never came back the other thing I want

2258
01:33:03,010 --> 01:33:00,480
to talk about is that this is happened

2259
01:33:06,169 --> 01:33:03,020
in other Realms right so we know

2260
01:33:07,850 --> 01:33:06,179
obviously with Bob Lazar and we're not

2261
01:33:11,030 --> 01:33:07,860
going to get into all that now but he

2262
01:33:13,669 --> 01:33:11,040
had a multi-agency raid on his home in

2263
01:33:14,570 --> 01:33:13,679
New Mexico but when I was filming too by

2264
01:33:16,850 --> 01:33:14,580
the way because we talked about the

2265
01:33:19,850 --> 01:33:16,860
movie everybody said oh first Jeremy

2266
01:33:22,010 --> 01:33:19,860
hired people it's a movie he faked it

2267
01:33:23,810 --> 01:33:22,020
and then of course the local documents

2268
01:33:27,649 --> 01:33:23,820
come out I didn't fake it there was a

2269
01:33:34,189 --> 01:33:31,550
that identified themselves as FBI and um

2270
01:33:36,350 --> 01:33:34,199
they uh said you're about Lazar right

2271
01:33:39,050 --> 01:33:36,360
and then you know one of them got on the

2272
01:33:41,510 --> 01:33:39,060
radio saying yeah he's here

2273
01:33:42,709 --> 01:33:41,520
apparently they also had my house staked

2274
01:33:45,830 --> 01:33:42,719
out

2275
01:33:47,030 --> 01:33:45,840
and they were deciding whether or not to

2276
01:33:51,430 --> 01:33:47,040
go there

2277
01:33:55,490 --> 01:33:51,440
the conveyor belt of vehicles and agents

2278
01:33:58,490 --> 01:33:55,500
and police did not stop the whole thing

2279
01:34:00,169 --> 01:33:58,500
it was like a Twilight Zone episode

2280
01:34:01,850 --> 01:34:00,179
they came in and then they said there'll

2281
01:34:04,490 --> 01:34:01,860
be a few other people coming here just

2282
01:34:06,890 --> 01:34:04,500
got a couple questions to ask him in a

2283
01:34:09,350 --> 01:34:06,900
short time the street filled up with

2284
01:34:12,229 --> 01:34:09,360
vehicles and the building completely

2285
01:34:14,270 --> 01:34:12,239
filled with agents it was really

2286
01:34:16,610 --> 01:34:14,280
something else did they identify

2287
01:34:19,370 --> 01:34:16,620
themselves initially as yeah there was

2288
01:34:23,629 --> 01:34:19,380
FBI identified themselves then came in

2289
01:34:25,790 --> 01:34:23,639
State Police and a few other agencies I

2290
01:34:26,810 --> 01:34:25,800
don't remember who but

2291
01:34:28,750 --> 01:34:26,820
um

2292
01:34:31,070 --> 01:34:28,760
there were a lot

2293
01:34:33,290 --> 01:34:31,080
standing room only and in the building

2294
01:34:34,970 --> 01:34:33,300
it was it was crazy yeah they had like a

2295
01:34:36,470 --> 01:34:34,980
forensic truck they had a bunch of

2296
01:34:38,330 --> 01:34:36,480
different agents they gridded off the

2297
01:34:41,209 --> 01:34:38,340
building I mean obviously they're

2298
01:34:43,010 --> 01:34:41,219
they're looking for something yeah

2299
01:34:45,110 --> 01:34:43,020
yeah and what they said they were

2300
01:34:49,189 --> 01:34:45,120
looking for some paperwork in Old order

2301
01:34:51,649 --> 01:34:49,199
from two years ago about a customer that

2302
01:34:53,330 --> 01:34:51,659
you know ordered some potentially toxic

2303
01:34:54,890 --> 01:34:53,340
material

2304
01:34:58,010 --> 01:34:54,900
which

2305
01:35:00,350 --> 01:34:58,020
they could have called for but uh this

2306
01:35:03,229 --> 01:35:00,360
was certainly way over the top

2307
01:35:05,570 --> 01:35:03,239
I looked up to select the right key and

2308
01:35:06,830 --> 01:35:05,580
they were right beside me it was quite

2309
01:35:08,930 --> 01:35:06,840
surprising

2310
01:35:10,970 --> 01:35:08,940
considering you could see all around

2311
01:35:13,189 --> 01:35:10,980
here and they would generally have to be

2312
01:35:15,110 --> 01:35:13,199
a vehicle or something somewhere but I

2313
01:35:16,310 --> 01:35:15,120
just pulled up got out picked the key

2314
01:35:18,169 --> 01:35:16,320
and then

2315
01:35:20,270 --> 01:35:18,179
they started talking from behind me I

2316
01:35:21,950 --> 01:35:20,280
thought that was really strange

2317
01:35:24,050 --> 01:35:21,960
of course it got much stranger as the

2318
01:35:27,530 --> 01:35:24,060
day went on what what got stranger about

2319
01:35:29,330 --> 01:35:27,540
it well just the sheer amount of people

2320
01:35:31,850 --> 01:35:29,340
that came

2321
01:35:33,950 --> 01:35:31,860
agency after agency

2322
01:35:36,050 --> 01:35:33,960
I mean they had computer experts here

2323
01:35:38,149 --> 01:35:36,060
going through you know all the computer

2324
01:35:41,209 --> 01:35:38,159
equipment we had here they had people

2325
01:35:44,450 --> 01:35:41,219
sectioning off the building labeling it

2326
01:35:46,370 --> 01:35:44,460
in cubic meters so they can search each

2327
01:35:47,750 --> 01:35:46,380
one you know what they're looking for

2328
01:35:50,390 --> 01:35:47,760
was just a

2329
01:35:52,650 --> 01:35:50,400
an order form so

2330
01:36:07,010 --> 01:35:52,660
it's very strange

2331
01:36:08,090 --> 01:36:07,020
[Music]

2332
01:36:12,850 --> 01:36:08,100
yeah

2333
01:36:18,470 --> 01:36:15,470
you've been rated

2334
01:36:22,790 --> 01:36:18,480
two times twice by more agencies than I

2335
01:36:26,030 --> 01:36:22,800
can really recall the FDA to the NRC

2336
01:36:30,110 --> 01:36:26,040
the FBI but they they usually come in in

2337
01:36:33,470 --> 01:36:30,120
mass and it's hard to pick out who's who

2338
01:36:35,570 --> 01:36:33,480
so this is beryllium yeah

2339
01:36:37,550 --> 01:36:35,580
and what is it used for again

2340
01:36:40,209 --> 01:36:37,560
it's used in Aerospace it's very

2341
01:36:40,219 --> 01:36:43,970
quite strong and

2342
01:36:48,830 --> 01:36:46,669
high temperature metal

2343
01:36:51,410 --> 01:36:48,840
do you think that you you were shaken

2344
01:36:52,790 --> 01:36:51,420
down to some degree you're being [\h__\h]

2345
01:36:55,129 --> 01:36:52,800
with I don't think they're just [\h__\h]

2346
01:36:59,510 --> 01:36:55,139
with me I'm convinced there's ulterior

2347
01:37:02,090 --> 01:36:59,520
motives I firmly suspect that there's a

2348
01:37:04,490 --> 01:37:02,100
a lot more to it than they're saying

2349
01:37:09,050 --> 01:37:04,500
that they're looking for

2350
01:37:13,850 --> 01:37:11,750
what they're supposed to do is tie you

2351
01:37:16,370 --> 01:37:13,860
up put you in the middle of the room

2352
01:37:18,770 --> 01:37:16,380
have everyone watching you so that you

2353
01:37:21,410 --> 01:37:18,780
can't you know collaborate a story or

2354
01:37:23,330 --> 01:37:21,420
you know try to trick them or whatnot so

2355
01:37:27,830 --> 01:37:23,340
they just kept kept us all in separate

2356
01:37:29,810 --> 01:37:27,840
rooms this bomb squad computer Squad I

2357
01:37:32,090 --> 01:37:29,820
think they have like a biological Hazard

2358
01:37:34,850 --> 01:37:32,100
Squad Hazmat Squad everybody made the

2359
01:37:36,950 --> 01:37:34,860
full gamut because they had no idea

2360
01:37:38,450 --> 01:37:36,960
um what we had in our shop or like what

2361
01:37:40,970 --> 01:37:38,460
we're capable of or are we going to

2362
01:37:42,410 --> 01:37:40,980
retaliate or anything like that so it

2363
01:37:45,110 --> 01:37:42,420
was pretty much like the full Michigan

2364
01:37:47,930 --> 01:37:45,120
FBI I mean they had the van they have

2365
01:37:50,930 --> 01:37:47,940
multiple cars lined off you know so

2366
01:37:53,149 --> 01:37:50,940
I mean in looking at Bob's life there's

2367
01:37:55,250 --> 01:37:53,159
always the suspicion that there's

2368
01:37:56,990 --> 01:37:55,260
something more going on on shaking him

2369
01:37:59,270 --> 01:37:57,000
down because he had that experience

2370
01:38:02,030 --> 01:37:59,280
before yeah so this is the second time

2371
01:38:04,310 --> 01:38:02,040
that I know of that he's gotten rated so

2372
01:38:06,110 --> 01:38:04,320
he's always had like this kind of

2373
01:38:07,850 --> 01:38:06,120
knowledge that there's somebody watching

2374
01:38:10,129 --> 01:38:07,860
no matter what he does there's always

2375
01:38:12,350 --> 01:38:10,139
somebody watching you and it does have

2376
01:38:14,030 --> 01:38:12,360
to be related to the area 51 stuff and

2377
01:38:16,189 --> 01:38:14,040
all that you know they kind of put them

2378
01:38:17,810 --> 01:38:16,199
on a list I think they do like Tony with

2379
01:38:19,850 --> 01:38:17,820
him and keeping an eye on them but I

2380
01:38:21,530 --> 01:38:19,860
don't believe that it's like

2381
01:38:22,550 --> 01:38:21,540
they're opening up a 30 year old file

2382
01:38:23,930 --> 01:38:22,560
and they're like all right we're gonna

2383
01:38:25,250 --> 01:38:23,940
crack down on the Bob story and we're

2384
01:38:26,570 --> 01:38:25,260
going to find out if he had what he has

2385
01:38:28,550 --> 01:38:26,580
what information he's got I don't think

2386
01:38:30,290 --> 01:38:28,560
that they're necessarily doing that but

2387
01:38:32,330 --> 01:38:30,300
I do think that there's like a culture

2388
01:38:34,790 --> 01:38:32,340
maybe within these agencies of they know

2389
01:38:36,169 --> 01:38:34,800
who this guy is and they'll have

2390
01:38:38,510 --> 01:38:36,179
you know they'll look for any reason

2391
01:38:40,129 --> 01:38:38,520
that they can to kind of you know poke

2392
01:38:42,169 --> 01:38:40,139
them with some thorns and make sure that

2393
01:38:45,169 --> 01:38:42,179
he knows you know who's watching them I

2394
01:38:47,450 --> 01:38:45,179
I believe that it's too coincidental for

2395
01:38:49,070 --> 01:38:47,460
it all to be just you know

2396
01:38:50,510 --> 01:38:49,080
you know just some luck of the draw

2397
01:38:54,110 --> 01:38:50,520
basically like there's there's something

2398
01:38:57,830 --> 01:38:55,850
we'll talk more about that later so now

2399
01:39:01,250 --> 01:38:57,840
we're at like the third time that I have

2400
01:39:04,270 --> 01:39:01,260
seen in my experience dude these people

2401
01:39:08,390 --> 01:39:07,250
this is a couple months ago what

2402
01:39:11,870 --> 01:39:08,400
happened

2403
01:39:15,290 --> 01:39:11,880
November of 2022

2404
01:39:17,810 --> 01:39:15,300
federal agents came to two homes that

2405
01:39:20,990 --> 01:39:17,820
are owned by York one is in Rachel and

2406
01:39:23,870 --> 01:39:21,000
one is in Las Vegas York has for the

2407
01:39:26,450 --> 01:39:23,880
last 20 plus years operated a website

2408
01:39:28,129 --> 01:39:26,460
called dreamlandresort.com and it is

2409
01:39:30,770 --> 01:39:28,139
sort of a central Clearinghouse for

2410
01:39:34,189 --> 01:39:30,780
information about area 51. people would

2411
01:39:36,290 --> 01:39:34,199
send in photos and stories and news

2412
01:39:39,290 --> 01:39:36,300
links and things of that sort and it was

2413
01:39:41,209 --> 01:39:39,300
a a place to exchange information with

2414
01:39:44,510 --> 01:39:41,219
other people who have like interests who

2415
01:39:46,970 --> 01:39:44,520
wonder about what projects are being uh

2416
01:39:48,950 --> 01:39:46,980
enacted out there what planes are flying

2417
01:39:50,050 --> 01:39:48,960
in and out of the base they take photos

2418
01:39:53,330 --> 01:39:50,060
of

2419
01:39:56,090 --> 01:39:53,340
f-117s that supposedly retired many

2420
01:39:57,950 --> 01:39:56,100
years ago and then speculate about what

2421
01:39:59,750 --> 01:39:57,960
else might be going on out there and

2422
01:40:01,970 --> 01:39:59,760
this is a friend of yours this is

2423
01:40:04,910 --> 01:40:01,980
somebody that you know for decades yeah

2424
01:40:07,729 --> 01:40:04,920
in fact York knew Chuck Clark and I

2425
01:40:09,590 --> 01:40:07,739
think when Chuck Clark got raided I'm

2426
01:40:12,709 --> 01:40:09,600
not entirely positive but I believe York

2427
01:40:14,870 --> 01:40:12,719
was visited back then as well and

2428
01:40:16,610 --> 01:40:14,880
um so he's got this website he's very

2429
01:40:18,770 --> 01:40:16,620
careful he doesn't want to cross a line

2430
01:40:21,530 --> 01:40:18,780
in fact when the storm 51 thing was

2431
01:40:24,290 --> 01:40:21,540
going on York led the charge to don't

2432
01:40:26,270 --> 01:40:24,300
come here leave us alone we filmed at

2433
01:40:28,729 --> 01:40:26,280
his house if you remember and he had put

2434
01:40:30,649 --> 01:40:28,739
up this barbed wire fancy spotlights

2435
01:40:32,390 --> 01:40:30,659
he's telling everybody don't do anything

2436
01:40:34,250 --> 01:40:32,400
up there don't they're very serious up

2437
01:40:37,490 --> 01:40:34,260
there this is a guy that has helped

2438
01:40:41,030 --> 01:40:37,500
protect that line for decades he he has

2439
01:40:44,990 --> 01:40:41,040
we are right in Rachel Nevada we're at

2440
01:40:47,810 --> 01:40:45,000
York's house he's uh prepping for the

2441
01:40:50,149 --> 01:40:47,820
zombie apocalypse with lights that are

2442
01:40:53,450 --> 01:40:50,159
like daylight surrounding his compound

2443
01:40:55,669 --> 01:40:53,460
of a house cleaning guns fenced off with

2444
01:40:58,070 --> 01:40:55,679
news trucks welcome to park on his

2445
01:41:00,590 --> 01:40:58,080
property so that uh he could be

2446
01:41:02,450 --> 01:41:00,600
protected for the zombie apocalypse

2447
01:41:07,189 --> 01:41:02,460
pretty [\h__\h] crazy I live real remote

2448
01:41:12,470 --> 01:41:10,010
but yeah this is a small town community

2449
01:41:13,970 --> 01:41:12,480
where people are literally invading it

2450
01:41:15,290 --> 01:41:13,980
coming from somewhere where they're not

2451
01:41:17,870 --> 01:41:15,300
going to be prepared for here the house

2452
01:41:20,149 --> 01:41:17,880
is prepped with daylight at night this

2453
01:41:22,250 --> 01:41:20,159
place is going to be like daylight they

2454
01:41:25,010 --> 01:41:22,260
got guns they got lights got news trucks

2455
01:41:26,629 --> 01:41:25,020
for protection fire is an issue some

2456
01:41:28,250 --> 01:41:26,639
properties where they got big trees

2457
01:41:30,770 --> 01:41:28,260
going you've seen old towns burn so

2458
01:41:32,750 --> 01:41:30,780
that's what this is about and uh you

2459
01:41:34,070 --> 01:41:32,760
know they should protect their property

2460
01:41:35,510 --> 01:41:34,080
however I think everybody's gonna have a

2461
01:41:37,490 --> 01:41:35,520
good time it's gonna be beautiful now I

2462
01:41:40,189 --> 01:41:37,500
want to get the watch how crazy this

2463
01:41:42,229 --> 01:41:40,199
situation is and whatever I can do to to

2464
01:41:45,050 --> 01:41:42,239
help with that do you personally feel

2465
01:41:46,310 --> 01:41:45,060
responsible for what's going on here now

2466
01:41:49,070 --> 01:41:46,320
I personally feel responsible for only

2467
01:41:54,050 --> 01:41:49,080
what I do I blame Bob Lazar really me

2468
01:41:59,450 --> 01:41:56,390
what's going on yeah

2469
01:42:01,790 --> 01:41:59,460
yeah people when the storm 51 thing was

2470
01:42:04,129 --> 01:42:01,800
percolating don't come up here it's a

2471
01:42:08,270 --> 01:42:04,139
bad idea don't tread on our little town

2472
01:42:10,550 --> 01:42:08,280
here stay away it's a bad idea but um so

2473
01:42:12,229 --> 01:42:10,560
he you know he is in a lot of ways a

2474
01:42:14,450 --> 01:42:12,239
friend to the government he's he would

2475
01:42:16,970 --> 01:42:14,460
never expose Secrets or endanger

2476
01:42:18,830 --> 01:42:16,980
National Security he's a naturalized

2477
01:42:21,830 --> 01:42:18,840
American citizen he came here because he

2478
01:42:23,750 --> 01:42:21,840
loved America so the raid happens they

2479
01:42:26,810 --> 01:42:23,760
kick in his door at his house and Rachel

2480
01:42:31,070 --> 01:42:26,820
uh came in with guns blazing not blazing

2481
01:42:33,350 --> 01:42:31,080
but guns drawn and um see took him

2482
01:42:36,229 --> 01:42:33,360
outside and threw him in a vehicle that

2483
01:42:40,129 --> 01:42:36,239
he took all of his computers uh cameras

2484
01:42:44,030 --> 01:42:40,139
photos hard drives uh cell phones

2485
01:42:46,790 --> 01:42:44,040
everything so double no knock warrants

2486
01:42:49,129 --> 01:42:46,800
on two properties one in Las Vegas one

2487
01:42:51,050 --> 01:42:49,139
in Rachel in the middle six a.m in the

2488
01:42:53,689 --> 01:42:51,060
morning his his girlfriend's in the

2489
01:42:56,750 --> 01:42:53,699
Vegas one he is in the one that is near

2490
01:42:59,870 --> 01:42:56,760
Rachel and boom door kicks open there's

2491
01:43:03,709 --> 01:42:59,880
guns drawn they take him into like a

2492
01:43:05,270 --> 01:43:03,719
type of detainment and they take all of

2493
01:43:06,950 --> 01:43:05,280
his computers and his hard drives and

2494
01:43:08,570 --> 01:43:06,960
we're not talking about like a

2495
01:43:11,149 --> 01:43:08,580
journalist like us we're talking about

2496
01:43:13,669 --> 01:43:11,159
like the website guy a guy that runs a

2497
01:43:15,530 --> 01:43:13,679
website and of course as I said he's

2498
01:43:17,270 --> 01:43:15,540
always been really careful he had said

2499
01:43:19,609 --> 01:43:17,280
look if there's at least made it clear

2500
01:43:22,010 --> 01:43:19,619
when people want to post things on his

2501
01:43:24,169 --> 01:43:22,020
site don't do something that's crossing

2502
01:43:27,050 --> 01:43:24,179
the line I don't want any secure

2503
01:43:29,030 --> 01:43:27,060
classified programs being exposed here

2504
01:43:31,070 --> 01:43:29,040
want to be careful about it and he's

2505
01:43:33,709 --> 01:43:31,080
told me I I mean he gave me the first

2506
01:43:35,870 --> 01:43:33,719
interview after this happened and said

2507
01:43:37,669 --> 01:43:35,880
look if they just came to me and told me

2508
01:43:39,109 --> 01:43:37,679
you got something on your site that

2509
01:43:41,930 --> 01:43:39,119
shouldn't be there I would have taken it

2510
01:43:43,669 --> 01:43:41,940
down they didn't that that's what Bob

2511
01:43:45,470 --> 01:43:43,679
has always said like that's what you

2512
01:43:47,390 --> 01:43:45,480
want is you know for ages to come just

2513
01:43:49,370 --> 01:43:47,400
talk with you there's that there's no

2514
01:43:51,649 --> 01:43:49,380
reason to do all this just come talk

2515
01:43:54,050 --> 01:43:51,659
with people so that's not what happened

2516
01:43:55,550 --> 01:43:54,060
with York and that really that really

2517
01:43:58,490 --> 01:43:55,560
made me upset

2518
01:44:00,410 --> 01:43:58,500
well he's not going to be charged with

2519
01:44:02,629 --> 01:44:00,420
anything they've made that clear his

2520
01:44:04,609 --> 01:44:02,639
lawyers have have done some inquiries

2521
01:44:06,709 --> 01:44:04,619
and it's not that he's ever going to be

2522
01:44:08,149 --> 01:44:06,719
charged with a crime but at the same

2523
01:44:09,649 --> 01:44:08,159
time because they have they wouldn't

2524
01:44:12,050 --> 01:44:09,659
tell him what it was that he did wrong

2525
01:44:13,970 --> 01:44:12,060
they gave him a hint that there must

2526
01:44:15,470 --> 01:44:13,980
have been an image on there that crossed

2527
01:44:18,169 --> 01:44:15,480
the line but they won't tell him what

2528
01:44:20,149 --> 01:44:18,179
the image was so he doesn't expect to

2529
01:44:21,709 --> 01:44:20,159
ever be charged but he's also never

2530
01:44:24,350 --> 01:44:21,719
going to get his stuff back I said it

2531
01:44:26,330 --> 01:44:24,360
might be years by the point by the time

2532
01:44:28,729 --> 01:44:26,340
you get your stuff back it will be so

2533
01:44:31,250 --> 01:44:28,739
outmoded it's not usable anymore right

2534
01:44:34,070 --> 01:44:31,260
so just the fact that you can go in bust

2535
01:44:36,169 --> 01:44:34,080
in a door from a multi-agency raid and

2536
01:44:37,970 --> 01:44:36,179
you can you know not give you the full

2537
01:44:39,890 --> 01:44:37,980
warrant I think it was like a 46 page

2538
01:44:42,290 --> 01:44:39,900
warrant they gave him one page of it if

2539
01:44:43,609 --> 01:44:42,300
I recall the numbers correctly not tell

2540
01:44:44,990 --> 01:44:43,619
you what they're looking for not tell

2541
01:44:46,850 --> 01:44:45,000
you if there are any charges you're

2542
01:44:48,350 --> 01:44:46,860
never going to be charged your stuff is

2543
01:44:50,330 --> 01:44:48,360
taken your doors are broken and by the

2544
01:44:52,729 --> 01:44:50,340
way we're not going to fix your doors

2545
01:44:54,950 --> 01:44:52,739
which that is wrong like I I have heard

2546
01:44:56,750 --> 01:44:54,960
from people that know that they should

2547
01:44:59,689 --> 01:44:56,760
fix the doors at least but not getting

2548
01:45:01,189 --> 01:44:59,699
your stuff back this is America what is

2549
01:45:02,810 --> 01:45:01,199
going on now now he's not a journalist

2550
01:45:05,390 --> 01:45:02,820
with the same protections as us let's

2551
01:45:06,770 --> 01:45:05,400
say but just as a citizen to do that so

2552
01:45:09,050 --> 01:45:06,780
unless there's something we don't know

2553
01:45:11,270 --> 01:45:09,060
in these situations right which I don't

2554
01:45:13,729 --> 01:45:11,280
think there is there's got to be

2555
01:45:16,250 --> 01:45:13,739
something because that it's a 46 page

2556
01:45:17,870 --> 01:45:16,260
warrant federal judge had to sign off on

2557
01:45:19,850 --> 01:45:17,880
that there has to be something in there

2558
01:45:22,970 --> 01:45:19,860
that convinced them to kick in

2559
01:45:25,850 --> 01:45:22,980
somebody's the doors at somebody's house

2560
01:45:27,470 --> 01:45:25,860
both houses and take all this stuff they

2561
01:45:29,270 --> 01:45:27,480
had to convince a judge that this was

2562
01:45:31,310 --> 01:45:29,280
really serious a matter of National

2563
01:45:33,470 --> 01:45:31,320
Security in order to cross that

2564
01:45:35,510 --> 01:45:33,480
threshold I would think but what is it

2565
01:45:37,070 --> 01:45:35,520
right so we think so unless this is an

2566
01:45:39,649 --> 01:45:37,080
intimidation tactic I don't want to

2567
01:45:41,750 --> 01:45:39,659
believe because you and I we know a lot

2568
01:45:44,450 --> 01:45:41,760
of personal friends that work in these

2569
01:45:47,510 --> 01:45:44,460
agencies they're good people they are

2570
01:45:49,310 --> 01:45:47,520
moral people they have a compass and

2571
01:45:51,830 --> 01:45:49,320
also the bureaucracy of it all to do

2572
01:45:53,689 --> 01:45:51,840
something like this uh without taking a

2573
01:45:55,250 --> 01:45:53,699
guy into custody I mean the people I

2574
01:45:57,470 --> 01:45:55,260
know in law enforcement and at the

2575
01:45:59,629 --> 01:45:57,480
federal level like they're like very

2576
01:46:01,609 --> 01:45:59,639
surprised by this case that there would

2577
01:46:03,830 --> 01:46:01,619
never be a charge like because to get

2578
01:46:05,689 --> 01:46:03,840
that war and is hard so it's just messed

2579
01:46:07,970 --> 01:46:05,699
up man because look I think most people

2580
01:46:09,350 --> 01:46:07,980
you go talk to them so this feels like a

2581
01:46:11,629 --> 01:46:09,360
message but either way I just want to

2582
01:46:14,390 --> 01:46:11,639
say we know a lot of people we know the

2583
01:46:19,070 --> 01:46:14,400
good guys we know people like us curious

2584
01:46:21,050 --> 01:46:19,080
in the UFO topic that uh are this seems

2585
01:46:22,550 --> 01:46:21,060
like something else and I don't know

2586
01:46:24,770 --> 01:46:22,560
what that is and I think it's just

2587
01:46:26,629 --> 01:46:24,780
horrible horrible it happened and we got

2588
01:46:29,990 --> 01:46:26,639
to find out what and they got to fix his

2589
01:46:32,090 --> 01:46:30,000
door here's the thing is you know I

2590
01:46:34,310 --> 01:46:32,100
understand the end you need places where

2591
01:46:36,950 --> 01:46:34,320
you can do secret stuff you have to be

2592
01:46:39,229 --> 01:46:36,960
able to have uh developing projects and

2593
01:46:41,450 --> 01:46:39,239
platforms and Technology where you don't

2594
01:46:43,850 --> 01:46:41,460
have prying eyes where our adversaries

2595
01:46:45,290 --> 01:46:43,860
can't see what's going on and even to

2596
01:46:47,750 --> 01:46:45,300
keep it away from the public as well

2597
01:46:50,629 --> 01:46:47,760
even the taxpayers who put the bill but

2598
01:46:52,850 --> 01:46:50,639
they can't have secret places where the

2599
01:46:54,709 --> 01:46:52,860
laws don't apply you know you can't have

2600
01:46:58,010 --> 01:46:54,719
a place like that where the Constitution

2601
01:47:00,709 --> 01:46:58,020
is suspended uh where you know you're uh

2602
01:47:03,290 --> 01:47:00,719
the First Amendment rights are invalid

2603
01:47:05,090 --> 01:47:03,300
where the public has no right to ask

2604
01:47:07,310 --> 01:47:05,100
questions about it because those kinds

2605
01:47:10,129 --> 01:47:07,320
of situations lead to trouble when you

2606
01:47:12,169 --> 01:47:10,139
have excessive secrecy like that when

2607
01:47:14,570 --> 01:47:12,179
you for years you know they announced

2608
01:47:16,070 --> 01:47:14,580
Area 51 right when they built it and

2609
01:47:17,209 --> 01:47:16,080
they said it's just a little Landing

2610
01:47:18,590 --> 01:47:17,219
Strip we're going to be here a couple of

2611
01:47:20,930 --> 01:47:18,600
months we'll be gone and I didn't

2612
01:47:22,729 --> 01:47:20,940
exactly tell the truth uh about the

2613
01:47:24,470 --> 01:47:22,739
facility that was out there was a NASA

2614
01:47:26,209 --> 01:47:24,480
weather station or something and then

2615
01:47:29,689 --> 01:47:26,219
you know the base gets bigger and bigger

2616
01:47:31,850 --> 01:47:29,699
and in the 1970s it disappeared from

2617
01:47:35,330 --> 01:47:31,860
Maps it was on them and then it was gone

2618
01:47:37,430 --> 01:47:35,340
and how do you not how do you expect the

2619
01:47:39,830 --> 01:47:37,440
public to not be interested in a base

2620
01:47:41,570 --> 01:47:39,840
that when you ask them straight out do

2621
01:47:42,830 --> 01:47:41,580
you have a base out there they say no

2622
01:47:44,689 --> 01:47:42,840
they won't acknowledge it it's

2623
01:47:46,729 --> 01:47:44,699
disappeared from maps of course the

2624
01:47:50,270 --> 01:47:46,739
people are going to be curious about it

2625
01:47:52,850 --> 01:47:50,280
and then the seizure of 89 000 acres of

2626
01:47:55,609 --> 01:47:52,860
land in 1985 one day it's public land

2627
01:47:57,649 --> 01:47:55,619
the next day it's the armed guards there

2628
01:47:59,689 --> 01:47:57,659
you can't access it anymore and only

2629
01:48:01,850 --> 01:47:59,699
months later did they ask for permission

2630
01:48:04,070 --> 01:48:01,860
the Air Force asked for permission from

2631
01:48:05,510 --> 01:48:04,080
Congress to take the land of course the

2632
01:48:07,609 --> 01:48:05,520
public is going to be interested in it

2633
01:48:09,830 --> 01:48:07,619
and the stories about exotic technology

2634
01:48:12,229 --> 01:48:09,840
the stories told by Bob Lazar and and

2635
01:48:14,390 --> 01:48:12,239
then something like this where you kick

2636
01:48:16,490 --> 01:48:14,400
in the doors of a guy take away his

2637
01:48:18,649 --> 01:48:16,500
computer shut down his website and don't

2638
01:48:21,169 --> 01:48:18,659
even tell him what it is that he's what

2639
01:48:24,470 --> 01:48:21,179
kind of transgressions he's he's done

2640
01:48:26,209 --> 01:48:24,480
um the excess of secrecy breeds more

2641
01:48:28,970 --> 01:48:26,219
public interest if you didn't want the

2642
01:48:30,649 --> 01:48:28,980
public to be focused on Area 51 you

2643
01:48:33,470 --> 01:48:30,659
wouldn't have so much secrecy around it

2644
01:48:36,590 --> 01:48:33,480
that's right and so kind of like our or

2645
01:48:40,129 --> 01:48:36,600
my personal aim right here is that with

2646
01:48:42,830 --> 01:48:40,139
the new Arrow all domain anomaly

2647
01:48:45,050 --> 01:48:42,840
resolution office which is the new UFO

2648
01:48:47,510 --> 01:48:45,060
government program that is acknowledged

2649
01:48:49,189 --> 01:48:47,520
and you know active and that's the plan

2650
01:48:50,270 --> 01:48:49,199
that it's not going to become a Project

2651
01:48:52,250 --> 01:48:50,280
Blue Book they're going to be

2652
01:48:54,229 --> 01:48:52,260
forward-facing like our friend Jay

2653
01:48:56,629 --> 01:48:54,239
Stratton really wanted it to be about

2654
01:48:59,330 --> 01:48:56,639
the UFO topic so that is the thing that

2655
01:49:01,609 --> 01:48:59,340
this is a cultural thing now this is a

2656
01:49:05,209 --> 01:49:01,619
huge cultural thing and I'll say it like

2657
01:49:08,750 --> 01:49:05,219
this the don't storm Area 51 event right

2658
01:49:10,970 --> 01:49:08,760
that was a great symbol of interest of

2659
01:49:13,790 --> 01:49:10,980
public so I think you know kind of where

2660
01:49:16,129 --> 01:49:13,800
we're getting to in this conversation is

2661
01:49:18,129 --> 01:49:16,139
that that thing that happened it was the

2662
01:49:21,470 --> 01:49:18,139
sequence of events and I think it's

2663
01:49:24,470 --> 01:49:21,480
abundantly clear now that 80 percent of

2664
01:49:26,510 --> 01:49:24,480
the at fault is is you and Bob Lazar I

2665
01:49:29,930 --> 01:49:26,520
think that is absolute perfect math I

2666
01:49:33,229 --> 01:49:29,940
think I I'll say 10 to to to Joe Rogan

2667
01:49:35,870 --> 01:49:33,239
or maybe even 15 and the rest remains to

2668
01:49:41,030 --> 01:49:35,880
me but at 80 is what you need to accept

2669
01:49:42,770 --> 01:49:41,040
I go about 20 Bob 10 me 30 Joe and the

2670
01:49:44,689 --> 01:49:42,780
rest of it is you with maybe three

2671
01:49:46,430 --> 01:49:44,699
percent to Dave Foley too oh yeah yeah

2672
01:49:48,649 --> 01:49:46,440
we got a hit for sure you know what I I

2673
01:49:50,149 --> 01:49:48,659
hope people will if they haven't read

2674
01:49:51,890 --> 01:49:50,159
Stephen roderick's Rolling Stone

2675
01:49:54,050 --> 01:49:51,900
articles to go out and find it it's it's

2676
01:49:55,669 --> 01:49:54,060
a lot of fun to read yeah I know there

2677
01:49:59,870 --> 01:49:55,679
have been discussions about trying to

2678
01:50:02,209 --> 01:49:59,880
resurrect a Area 51 party uh and they

2679
01:50:03,950 --> 01:50:02,219
haven't happened so far we had covet in

2680
01:50:06,290 --> 01:50:03,960
between yeah so maybe that'll happen

2681
01:50:08,330 --> 01:50:06,300
again in a more controlled uh

2682
01:50:10,970 --> 01:50:08,340
environment where nobody is threatening

2683
01:50:12,530 --> 01:50:10,980
to to go into the base itself yeah uh

2684
01:50:15,109 --> 01:50:12,540
but in the meantime you know I think it

2685
01:50:17,390 --> 01:50:15,119
was an indication an early indication of

2686
01:50:20,390 --> 01:50:17,400
the Public's great interest in in UFOs

2687
01:50:22,189 --> 01:50:20,400
and that topic in general and that's one

2688
01:50:24,410 --> 01:50:22,199
of the reasons we have weaponize just

2689
01:50:28,310 --> 01:50:24,420
underway here and also we want to be

2690
01:50:30,229 --> 01:50:28,320
able to share images secret stuff new

2691
01:50:32,510 --> 01:50:30,239
testimony new Witnesses things of that

2692
01:50:35,270 --> 01:50:32,520
sort I think we owe our audience some

2693
01:50:37,609 --> 01:50:35,280
new images don't we okay we don't owe

2694
01:50:39,470 --> 01:50:37,619
anybody nothing to begin with and I do

2695
01:50:41,810 --> 01:50:39,480
want to end on the thing

2696
01:50:44,570 --> 01:50:41,820
um Stephen Roderick you told me you're

2697
01:50:46,790 --> 01:50:44,580
my friend I'm busting your balls because

2698
01:50:50,629 --> 01:50:46,800
you said you're my friend we need you

2699
01:50:51,890 --> 01:50:50,639
buddy because you are a great voice if

2700
01:50:54,470 --> 01:50:51,900
you will

2701
01:50:55,490 --> 01:50:54,480
dedicate some of your time to this I

2702
01:50:57,229 --> 01:50:55,500
think first of all you got the greatest

2703
01:50:59,390 --> 01:50:57,239
guys you can talk to about it but I want

2704
01:51:01,310 --> 01:50:59,400
you to be louder and I want you to take

2705
01:51:03,109 --> 01:51:01,320
it seriously so that really because he's

2706
01:51:04,910 --> 01:51:03,119
my he said he's my friend I'm busting

2707
01:51:08,090 --> 01:51:04,920
his balls well we could show him some

2708
01:51:11,030 --> 01:51:08,100
images right okay yeah let's show

2709
01:51:13,850 --> 01:51:11,040
everybody listen just one hold on okay

2710
01:51:17,870 --> 01:51:13,860
hold on I am not going to feel like

2711
01:51:20,030 --> 01:51:17,880
beholden to put things out quickly and

2712
01:51:21,590 --> 01:51:20,040
fastly and I know you're not either but

2713
01:51:24,530 --> 01:51:21,600
let's give them two

2714
01:51:26,870 --> 01:51:24,540
how about three how about four

2715
01:51:28,669 --> 01:51:26,880
I'll see your four and take your five no

2716
01:51:30,669 --> 01:51:28,679
point six all right let's see what he

2717
01:51:33,169 --> 01:51:30,679
got awesome what do you got

2718
01:51:39,229 --> 01:51:33,179
no just [\h__\h] her out

2719
01:51:41,810 --> 01:51:39,239
um okay check it out so we obtained some

2720
01:51:43,129 --> 01:51:41,820
there is a video

2721
01:51:47,330 --> 01:51:43,139
from

2722
01:51:50,410 --> 01:51:47,340
an active conflict Zone

2723
01:51:53,450 --> 01:51:50,420
and we are providing

2724
01:51:55,250 --> 01:51:53,460
seven still images

2725
01:51:58,010 --> 01:51:55,260
from that video

2726
01:51:59,810 --> 01:51:58,020
this is not classified

2727
01:52:01,970 --> 01:51:59,820
and in fact

2728
01:52:04,970 --> 01:52:01,980
it is not contained

2729
01:52:07,129 --> 01:52:04,980
within any known to us

2730
01:52:10,810 --> 01:52:07,139
classified documents in fact I'm not

2731
01:52:13,970 --> 01:52:10,820
even sure I am actually pretty sure that

2732
01:52:15,470 --> 01:52:13,980
any UFO study programs run by our

2733
01:52:18,470 --> 01:52:15,480
government has this even though it's a

2734
01:52:20,149 --> 01:52:18,480
military filmed piece of footage UAB

2735
01:52:22,550 --> 01:52:20,159
task force doesn't have this you don't

2736
01:52:25,609 --> 01:52:22,560
think Arrow has it can you say what kind

2737
01:52:27,649 --> 01:52:25,619
of platform these images were captured

2738
01:52:30,109 --> 01:52:27,659
from yes so I want to be really clear

2739
01:52:32,870 --> 01:52:30,119
too why why are we releasing still

2740
01:52:35,510 --> 01:52:32,880
images compared to a video

2741
01:52:37,550 --> 01:52:35,520
um I obtained

2742
01:52:39,410 --> 01:52:37,560
uh images

2743
01:52:42,590 --> 01:52:39,420
we went through it together to make sure

2744
01:52:44,870 --> 01:52:42,600
and we have done full background I'm not

2745
01:52:48,290 --> 01:52:44,880
in the business of obtaining things that

2746
01:52:50,149 --> 01:52:48,300
are sketchy I know for sure that we can

2747
01:52:52,189 --> 01:52:50,159
receive this together and we can put it

2748
01:52:55,850 --> 01:52:52,199
out to the public there is nothing in

2749
01:52:58,790 --> 01:52:55,860
this that would even accidentally be

2750
01:53:01,189 --> 01:52:58,800
harmful but it is from a conflict Zone

2751
01:53:04,129 --> 01:53:01,199
again from Iraq

2752
01:53:05,330 --> 01:53:04,139
and this is uh an image and I'm not

2753
01:53:08,570 --> 01:53:05,340
going to go into any of the details

2754
01:53:11,870 --> 01:53:08,580
right now I want the public to help us

2755
01:53:14,030 --> 01:53:11,880
to engage these images because

2756
01:53:16,129 --> 01:53:14,040
what we're seeing in this

2757
01:53:19,689 --> 01:53:16,139
and the people we've spoken with about

2758
01:53:23,990 --> 01:53:19,699
it this is officially labeled

2759
01:53:26,090 --> 01:53:24,000
UAP this is not our asset that that we

2760
01:53:28,370 --> 01:53:26,100
know we are sure of that it is not any

2761
01:53:31,129 --> 01:53:28,380
foreign Nations asset that is a known

2762
01:53:34,189 --> 01:53:31,139
foreign Nation but it's [\h__\h] weird

2763
01:53:36,950 --> 01:53:34,199
and and so we're just trying to see can

2764
01:53:38,510 --> 01:53:36,960
the internet can UFO Twitter can the

2765
01:53:39,830 --> 01:53:38,520
general world can people with more

2766
01:53:42,530 --> 01:53:39,840
experience help us out with this because

2767
01:53:44,390 --> 01:53:42,540
right now our government who who they've

2768
01:53:46,970 --> 01:53:44,400
officially labeled it UAP but it hasn't

2769
01:53:49,430 --> 01:53:46,980
gone to the right places and that's why

2770
01:53:51,950 --> 01:53:49,440
you and I get contacted because there's

2771
01:53:53,870 --> 01:53:51,960
this bottleneck of information from when

2772
01:53:56,930 --> 01:53:53,880
something is being captured in a

2773
01:53:59,209 --> 01:53:56,940
conflict Zone and it needs to get to I

2774
01:54:02,209 --> 01:53:59,219
don't know let's say Central Command

2775
01:54:04,490 --> 01:54:02,219
centcom and and really see me hey this

2776
01:54:07,310 --> 01:54:04,500
is an issue so this image what you're

2777
01:54:09,709 --> 01:54:07,320
going to see I'll be very clear let me

2778
01:54:13,609 --> 01:54:09,719
show it now

2779
01:54:16,850 --> 01:54:13,619
as you can see this is a very skinny

2780
01:54:18,950 --> 01:54:16,860
object compared to its length if you

2781
01:54:22,129 --> 01:54:18,960
look in the top left you'll see that

2782
01:54:26,149 --> 01:54:22,139
this was filmed in white hot which means

2783
01:54:27,709 --> 01:54:26,159
that the background is hotter than the

2784
01:54:31,129 --> 01:54:27,719
image which by the way just so you know

2785
01:54:33,470 --> 01:54:31,139
I can confirm with 100 that this object

2786
01:54:35,149 --> 01:54:33,480
flew under controlled flight with

2787
01:54:38,830 --> 01:54:35,159
intelligent control

2788
01:54:42,169 --> 01:54:38,840
across the screen from left to right

2789
01:54:43,129 --> 01:54:42,179
kind of looks like a torpedo okay or a

2790
01:54:45,290 --> 01:54:43,139
rocket

2791
01:54:48,890 --> 01:54:45,300
so I'm going to put this in big bold

2792
01:54:50,810 --> 01:54:48,900
letters on the screen not a rocket and

2793
01:54:52,910 --> 01:54:50,820
let me explain that for a second this is

2794
01:54:54,350 --> 01:54:52,920
a conflict Zone maybe it's a rocket so

2795
01:54:56,510 --> 01:54:54,360
it's not a torpedo because it's over

2796
01:54:57,950 --> 01:54:56,520
land and everybody can just look in the

2797
01:54:59,149 --> 01:54:57,960
air yeah it's in the air and you know

2798
01:55:01,609 --> 01:54:59,159
from the video obviously you see that

2799
01:55:03,470 --> 01:55:01,619
but I we were able to obtain and release

2800
01:55:05,390 --> 01:55:03,480
these images is what we're doing it's

2801
01:55:07,430 --> 01:55:05,400
not our job I hope Arrow puts this out

2802
01:55:09,470 --> 01:55:07,440
now if they go find the video unless

2803
01:55:11,689 --> 01:55:09,480
they're provided it by journalists right

2804
01:55:15,290 --> 01:55:11,699
so here's the deal

2805
01:55:19,189 --> 01:55:15,300
you would see if this was a rocket you

2806
01:55:21,590 --> 01:55:19,199
would see white hot engine you would see

2807
01:55:23,390 --> 01:55:21,600
plume you would see heat you would see a

2808
01:55:26,149 --> 01:55:23,400
what they call signatures intelligence

2809
01:55:28,729 --> 01:55:26,159
you would see a signature so what you're

2810
01:55:31,790 --> 01:55:28,739
seeing here is interesting to me and

2811
01:55:34,370 --> 01:55:31,800
others that came to me for very specific

2812
01:55:37,010 --> 01:55:34,380
reasons it's because it does not show

2813
01:55:40,010 --> 01:55:37,020
the traditional signatures of what you'd

2814
01:55:41,629 --> 01:55:40,020
see for reactionary propulsion you what

2815
01:55:42,910 --> 01:55:41,639
you're seeing is something that appears

2816
01:55:44,870 --> 01:55:42,920
to have

2817
01:55:46,310 --> 01:55:44,880
non-reactionary propulsion now have we

2818
01:55:48,890 --> 01:55:46,320
heard that before I mean it's an

2819
01:55:51,109 --> 01:55:48,900
interesting thing right so I don't know

2820
01:55:53,090 --> 01:55:51,119
what this is it is a UFO but it was

2821
01:55:56,090 --> 01:55:53,100
something under controlled flight under

2822
01:55:59,030 --> 01:55:56,100
intelligent control that has appears to

2823
01:56:01,850 --> 01:55:59,040
have a propulsion system that is

2824
01:56:05,090 --> 01:56:01,860
undefined yet by us we don't understand

2825
01:56:07,729 --> 01:56:05,100
it and the shape no control surfaces no

2826
01:56:09,530 --> 01:56:07,739
flight surfaces now look if we get a

2827
01:56:11,209 --> 01:56:09,540
reasonable explanation we'll be here

2828
01:56:13,490 --> 01:56:11,219
we'll be helping people out with that

2829
01:56:15,709 --> 01:56:13,500
reasonable access Nation but damn have

2830
01:56:18,470 --> 01:56:15,719
we had some really sharp Minds on this

2831
01:56:22,250 --> 01:56:18,480
so far and we are still stumped so this

2832
01:56:24,470 --> 01:56:22,260
is a UFO filmed over Iraq and it shows

2833
01:56:26,270 --> 01:56:24,480
an object that passes through in video

2834
01:56:27,709 --> 01:56:26,280
and we're providing seven images which

2835
01:56:29,990 --> 01:56:27,719
somebody online will stitch together

2836
01:56:31,550 --> 01:56:30,000
somebody can animate it for us yeah so

2837
01:56:33,290 --> 01:56:31,560
that's what we're giving people today

2838
01:56:35,390 --> 01:56:33,300
what do you make of the what looks like

2839
01:56:39,109 --> 01:56:35,400
some kind of disturbance behind it in

2840
01:56:40,850 --> 01:56:39,119
the air yeah I I really this is like for

2841
01:56:43,609 --> 01:56:40,860
like a long time I went through this

2842
01:56:45,410 --> 01:56:43,619
like I went to so many people trying to

2843
01:56:47,450 --> 01:56:45,420
figure out people we know like that we

2844
01:56:50,030 --> 01:56:47,460
trust and the people that I don't know

2845
01:56:52,850 --> 01:56:50,040
it's not exhaust though it's not so it's

2846
01:56:55,010 --> 01:56:52,860
a thermal imaging camera so what you're

2847
01:56:57,709 --> 01:56:55,020
seeing in that image is just it's it's

2848
01:56:59,570 --> 01:56:57,719
thermal it's it's heat differential is

2849
01:57:01,310 --> 01:56:59,580
what you're seeing and that leads us to

2850
01:57:04,669 --> 01:57:01,320
a very interesting point that we should

2851
01:57:07,250 --> 01:57:04,679
make but what you're seeing is that line

2852
01:57:08,930 --> 01:57:07,260
I think I personally think and I could

2853
01:57:12,530 --> 01:57:08,940
be totally wrong

2854
01:57:15,589 --> 01:57:12,540
but I think that it is an artifact of

2855
01:57:17,390 --> 01:57:15,599
the actual capturing system showing what

2856
01:57:19,970 --> 01:57:17,400
I would call with layman's terms like a

2857
01:57:22,129 --> 01:57:19,980
ghost image like as it goes but other

2858
01:57:23,689 --> 01:57:22,139
people have more interesting theories

2859
01:57:25,129 --> 01:57:23,699
about what you're seeing because it's a

2860
01:57:28,129 --> 01:57:25,139
thermal camera

2861
01:57:31,729 --> 01:57:28,139
it's clearly not an engine or engine

2862
01:57:33,290 --> 01:57:31,739
exhaust so there's no comparable and

2863
01:57:35,050 --> 01:57:33,300
anybody I talked with that could pull up

2864
01:57:36,830 --> 01:57:35,060
right there comparables to Rocket

2865
01:57:38,990 --> 01:57:36,840
comparables to even though it's over

2866
01:57:40,129 --> 01:57:39,000
land like a submarine wake or something

2867
01:57:42,290 --> 01:57:40,139
like that would be the closest so it's

2868
01:57:44,629 --> 01:57:42,300
some sort of wake or most like it's a

2869
01:57:46,129 --> 01:57:44,639
digital artifact but I don't know that

2870
01:57:48,169 --> 01:57:46,139
it's a digital artifact so I would love

2871
01:57:50,570 --> 01:57:48,179
people to to go after that and try to

2872
01:57:52,669 --> 01:57:50,580
find out what is it all right UFO world

2873
01:57:55,609 --> 01:57:52,679
go to work let us know what you think of

2874
01:57:57,470 --> 01:57:55,619
this animate it if you want to and help

2875
01:57:59,510 --> 01:57:57,480
us figure out what the heck this is help

2876
01:58:01,550 --> 01:57:59,520
our our military figure out what it is

2877
01:58:03,530 --> 01:58:01,560
because they don't know right and so I

2878
01:58:04,910 --> 01:58:03,540
think why we are releasing this and I

2879
01:58:06,709 --> 01:58:04,920
want to be real clear on why we are

2880
01:58:10,370 --> 01:58:06,719
releasing it is because I think together

2881
01:58:12,290 --> 01:58:10,380
between the abundance the the archive of

2882
01:58:14,570 --> 01:58:12,300
people that trust us that come to us and

2883
01:58:17,149 --> 01:58:14,580
say okay this is supposed to go from

2884
01:58:20,089 --> 01:58:17,159
here to here but

2885
01:58:21,589 --> 01:58:20,099
um somehow it's going to you guys and

2886
01:58:23,750 --> 01:58:21,599
again we do it in a way where it's like

2887
01:58:25,729 --> 01:58:23,760
I I don't even know who specifically

2888
01:58:27,290 --> 01:58:25,739
sent but I was informed about it through

2889
01:58:28,850 --> 01:58:27,300
numerous people

2890
01:58:30,290 --> 01:58:28,860
the reason why I think we should put

2891
01:58:32,149 --> 01:58:30,300
this out it's not just so that people

2892
01:58:34,490 --> 01:58:32,159
can have another image you know that

2893
01:58:37,609 --> 01:58:34,500
they can make cool memes of although I

2894
01:58:40,129 --> 01:58:37,619
challenge them to do so it's because

2895
01:58:41,870 --> 01:58:40,139
which I am trying and I think you speak

2896
01:58:44,570 --> 01:58:41,880
for yourself but I think we're trying to

2897
01:58:46,970 --> 01:58:44,580
get our new program Arrow to be

2898
01:58:49,550 --> 01:58:46,980
transparent and clear and like Susan go

2899
01:58:51,649 --> 01:58:49,560
at the Pentagon to confirm some basic

2900
01:58:53,930 --> 01:58:51,659
things about the mosul orb if she hasn't

2901
01:58:56,629 --> 01:58:53,940
already by the time this airs this is

2902
01:58:59,089 --> 01:58:56,639
not a matter of National Security this

2903
01:59:01,790 --> 01:58:59,099
is a matter of national responsibility

2904
01:59:04,010 --> 01:59:01,800
to the citizens that employ you the

2905
01:59:05,810 --> 01:59:04,020
people that you represent and so that's

2906
01:59:07,970 --> 01:59:05,820
why I'm doing that we've been promised

2907
01:59:10,250 --> 01:59:07,980
transparency that's the buzzword we keep

2908
01:59:12,470 --> 01:59:10,260
hearing out of uh arrow and the people

2909
01:59:14,930 --> 01:59:12,480
at the Pentagon who work with them let's

2910
01:59:16,250 --> 01:59:14,940
see it let's see it in action and uh you

2911
01:59:18,649 --> 01:59:16,260
know we're going to provide these images

2912
01:59:20,149 --> 01:59:18,659
now and hope people will take a look at

2913
01:59:22,310 --> 01:59:20,159
them and help us figure out what they

2914
01:59:24,050 --> 01:59:22,320
are but also to encourage other people

2915
01:59:26,270 --> 01:59:24,060
who are out there who've got something

2916
01:59:28,010 --> 01:59:26,280
similar who don't know quite what to do

2917
01:59:30,169 --> 01:59:28,020
with it we'll take a look at it if you

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want to oh yeah yeah absolutely we have

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a um an email I don't remember but I

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01:59:37,129 --> 01:59:35,040
think it's like weaponized podcast at

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proton dot me or something like that's

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on the website right but yeah yeah we'll

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send away baby send away anyway George

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01:59:44,750 --> 01:59:42,360
uh thank you so much for revisiting

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storm Area 51 right now I got my flight

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suit pants and that's why in the desert

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that was fun I know it's been a hard few

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weeks but man I hope that everybody

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engages what we put out yeah we're

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having fun oh wait wait last question

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02:00:01,310 --> 01:59:58,739
last question yeah yeah what the [\h__\h] is

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this sweatshirt Franklin Yellow Jacket

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my high school my my sister Kathy got me

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this shirt a while back Franklin yellow

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jackets that was my high school where

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was the high school Stockton California

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I just never seen you in a sweatshirt so

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it's very interesting anyway thanks so

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[Music]

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never have so few had so much to tell

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but could save a little

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following this little weaponized

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presentation of Jeremy Corbell George

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Knapp Dark Horse entertainment and

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